From General De GAULLE : – “In Europe, first Germany, secondly Italy and THIRDLY SPAIN passed on HATE SPEECH LAWS to control INTERNET sites. Remember : suppressing alternative information sources, Franco’s regime in Spain to historical Mussolini’s fascism in Italy by way of Hitler’s nazism in Germany imposed its will on the population. »

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NO COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE ITS WILL UPON OTHER COUNTRIES.

Today we understand FASCISM as FRANCO’s Spain, MUSSOLINI’s Italy and HITLER’s Germany.

From three fascists european regimes, spanish, italian and german regimes, the dismal memory of the past can contribute to human rights as long as it is revealed and repaired.

Here we seem to have a rule of peremptory law which, far from protecting the most vulnerable population, forbids them to express themselves freely especially if they are political opponents.

So nowadays what d’you see ?

The return of FASCISM is NOW obviously visible in European Union.

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STATE CENSORSHIP is based on a threatening nature of FASCIST ideology.

And TODAY, Britain, then France have also enacted HATE SPEECH LAWS under german dictatorship, it is to say, fascist european censorship.

Yes, many of the countries concerned have adopted hate speech laws that not only ensured impunity to authoritarian regimes for the current european gouvernments but, in effect, also impeded investigations by the justice systems against these politicians and civil servants

  • who must NOT abuse their authority

  • or must NOT use their power or position in a manner that is offensive, humiliating, embarrassing or intimidating to another person,

  • above all even when this person is a POLITICAL OPPONENT.

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It was not acceptable for a small group of people to attempt to impose their will and misguided ideology on others through the use of force and terror tactics ;

  • european people should be free to choose the type of government under which they wished to live.

The german government’s desire to impose its will on the majority of the european countries is therefore potentially dangerous.

Now let’s look at what happens in Spain, a former fascist country like two others european countries, Germany and Italy.

For that, look at the excellent blog http://www.techdirt.com/

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Italy and Germany

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FIRST ARTICLE :

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180120/05380339047/spanish-government-uses-hate-speech-law-to-arrest-critic-spanish-government.shtml

Spanish Government Uses

Hate Speech Law

To Arrest Critic

Of The Spanish Government

from the shocked-SHOCKED-to-find-such-a-predictable-use-of-a-bad-law dept

Free Speech

by Tim Cushing

Thu, Jan 25th 2018 10:36 am

[ Spain’s government has gotten into the business of regulating speech with predictably awful results. An early adopter of Blues Lives Matter-esque policies, Spain went full police state, passing a law making it a crime to show “disrespect” to law enforcement officers. The predictable result? The arrest of someone for calling cops “slackers” in a Facebook post.

Spain’s government is either woefully unaware of the negative consequences of laws like this or, worse, likes the negative consequences. After all, it doesn’t hurt Spain’s government beyond a little reputational damage. It only hurts residents of Spain. When you’re already unpopular, thanks to laws like these and suppression of a Catalan independence vote, what difference does it make if you’re known better for shutting down dissent than actually protecting citizens from hateful speech?

One Catalan resident is getting the full “hate speech” rap-and-ride.

A Catalan high school teacher, Manel Riu, appeared in court on Thursday accused of hate speech for his tweets and Facebook posts criticizing Spain, government members and the Guardia Civil police. Over a hundred people escorted him to court in Tremp, west of Catalonia, where he denied any wrongdoing and asked for the case’s dismissal.

As a Catalan, Riu certainly has reason to criticize the Spanish government. During the last attempted referendum, the Spanish government sent police to seize ballots, voters’ cellphones, and ordered Google to remove a voting location app from the Play store. The evidence against Riu is composed of 119 tweets gathered by the Guardia Civil, Spain’s oldest law enforcement agency — one that blurs the line between playing soldier and playing cop far more often than its US counterparts.

One tweet apparently compared Spain to hell. The rest are presumably similarly unflattering. Hyperbolic venting by unhappy citizens is to be expected. It also should be protected. Insulating the government from unhappy citizens never works out well. But that’s how Spain is handling dissent: by sending out the most “police state” wing of its police forces to arrest people for calling Spain figuratively hell.

The crime cited here is a violation of Spain’s hate speech law. But that makes no sense. Hate speech laws are supposed to protect underprivileged groups who are often targets of derogatory comments. They’re not supposed to protect the powerful from the underprivileged. The anomalies of hate speech law enforcement are the times they’re actually used the way they should be. (Not that they’re good ideas in the first place, but for the sake of argument…) Shutting down dissenters and critics of the government is the status quo.]

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TWO COMMENTS (not all) :

Jordan Chandler, 25 Jan 2018 @ 10:49am

What’s next?

Spanish Inquisition 2: Electric Boogaloo

And then Kick the Jews Out 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Isabella_(sculpture)

Hey let’s build some more statues to Dictators!

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btr1701 (profile), 25 Jan 2018 @ 11:11am

> Hate speech laws are supposed to protect underprivileged

> groups who are often targets of derogatory comments

Which is itself authoritarian and horrible. Even when used properly ‘hate speech’ laws are incompatible with a free society, which is why the US thankfully does not recognize a ‘hate speech’ exception to the 1st Amendment, despite all the governors and legislators that pretend that there is one.

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SECOND ARTICLE :

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151020/19194932582/hate-speech-laws-are-just-another-way-governments-to-punish-people-they-dont-like.shtml

‘Hate Speech’ Laws Are Just Another Way

For Governments

To Punish People

They Don’t Like

from the adding-more-tiers-to-the-‘equitable’-justice-system dept

Free Speech

by Tim Cushing

Wed, Oct 28th 2015 6:22am

Two recent legislative efforts have been mounted to add police to the rolls of “disadvantaged” citizens in need of the additional shelter of “hate crime” laws. Hate crime laws are immediately problematic. They add additional punishments to criminal acts already punishable under existing laws. It’s exactly the sort of thing justice isn’t meant to be: vindictive. A murder is a murder, whether or not it was propelled by someone’s underlying biases. A threat is a threat, no matter the threatener’s personal views on race, marriage or human sexuality. Adding additional punishments solely because of a perceived motive serves no purpose other than to make those who support these laws feel like past racial/sexual wrongs are slowly being righted. The sinners of the present pay for the sins of the past sinners.

Adding police officers to this mix is not just stupid and completely antithetical to the underlying rationale of “hate crime” laws. It’s also incredibly dangerous. Elizabeth Nolan Brown of Reason takes a look at how hate crime laws are being deployed in other countries. What she’s found is that hate crime laws are like any other: they’re abused most frequently by those in power and deployed inconsistently to further governments’ aims.

The agency tasked with prosecuting hate speech in Kenya is called the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC); it was formed in 2008 to address ethnic conflicts in the nation. Onyando asserts that NCIC has ignored the bulk of complaints it has received and acts “more like an arm of the ruling coalition” than an independent agency, honing in only on those who speak out against the Jubilee Alliance, a coalition established in 2013 to support the candidacy of current President Uhuru Kenyatta and Deputy President William Ruto.

In this case, the government only cares about hate speech when it’s on the receiving end of the hate. But this selective enforcement isn’t limited to non-Western governments with a history of corruption. It’s also happening in Europe.

Because “hate speech” is not narrowly defined, it’s up to those in power to decide what qualifies as hate and what doesn’t, and often that depends very much on both whom the speaker is and the sympathies of those in power. France has been accused of treating anti-Semitic sentiment with kid gloves while ignoring anti-Muslim expression. In the U.K., a British teenager was arrested after criticizing British military actions in Afghanistan.

So, selective enforcement should work out great when it’s cops who are targeted. Threats against law enforcement officers will be treated as exceptional crimes, even though they’re facially indistinguishable from threats made against non-uniformed individuals or groups.

The government in general is supportive of law enforcement, even when agencies’ track records indicate this trust is unearned. The selective application of hate crime/hate speech laws will almost always favor this particular “protected” group. “Hate crime/speech” sentence enhancements will be piled on top of existing sentence enhancements pertaining to the assault of government employees. Fines and bail amounts will increase dramatically.

In San Francisco, for instance, leaders recently condemned graffiti saying “No More Chinese” as hate speech. The suspected spray painter was charged with 13 crimes, including felony vandalism with a felony hate crime enhancement. “We’re exposing a man to somewhere around six years of jail time for spray painting,” said public defender Yali Corea-Levy. And while bail for felony vandalism is normally set around $25,000, the suspect’s bail awas set at $155,000. Similar outrage has not been summoned in San Fran for street art advocating the killing of hipsters or urging “techie scum” to die.

Our own government has already indicated a willingness to punish speech that “attacks” the home team. It won’t take much to persuade it to use its power against those who take aim — verbally or physically — at law enforcement professionals. These new rights won’t be equally granted. They will be used almost exclusively to ensure groups with considerable amounts of power and protection are given just a little more.

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SOME COMMENTS

Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 6:37am

Weak argument

Laws Are Just Another Way For Governments To Punish People They Don’t Like

You could use the above headline and make the same exact arguments.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 8:58am

Re: Weak argument

Yes, you are correct but still a valid argument.

The very idea of all it all is for people to remain vigilant which is completely not happening.

All laws are nothing more than people with power establishing what they do not like, this will never be different at any other time or any other place.

You can concoct all manor of blame or excuses like “separation of church and state” to try to block something you don’t like in a law… but the reality is this. If enough people in power want you marginalized or marching to their orders… you either march or you fight back.

The idea that all religion is bad only creates a cover for the real evil… humanity and it contrived institutions… some do manage to do some good, but when they become trusted… that is moment corruption has become its core and it will be slowly eaten away. Hate Speech is the same… an idea of corruption that breeds and props corruption up. A construct of sheep that live in fear and weakness.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 1:46pm

Re: Weak argument

This is factually incorrect.

Before we had laws and separation of powers, governments were absolutely free to destroy any citizen they disliked.

Laws are a way to -PREVENT- the government from simply punishing who they dislike, specifically defining what kinds of behaviors are punishable, and guaranteeing that everything not listed is ok.

Vaguely worded, subjective, overly broad laws, are a way for governments to punish people they don’t like.

It’s why we oppose them.

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ChrisB (profile), 28 Oct 2015 @ 11:35am

Re: Re: sorry, but no

Hate crimes are simply normal crimes with hate speech thrown in. For example, assaulting someone vs. assaulting someone while yelling “I hate whites”. Should be the same punishment.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 7:08am

Re:

I never understood the whole hate crime thing either. Its just one of those laws passed to calm the ‘ethnic’ groups from rebelling too much.

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Don’t worry blacks,

we’ve passed laws to protect you,

now you can go back to living

in poverty

and unequal opportunity.

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Wendy Cockcroft, 29 Oct 2015 @ 3:32am

Re: Re:

It is an attempt to legislate morality

and as Kennedy said, you can’t.

Mean people are mean and putting limits on the words they can use

or the symbols they are allowed to display in public will NOT make that go away.

You can’t solve an “inside” problem from the outside, people.

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John Fenderson (profile), 29 Oct 2015 @ 7:51am

Re: Re: Re: Re:

“Should people be allowed to promote or defend that?”

As awful as it is, yes, people should be allowed to promote or defend it.

Expressing your opinion should never be against the law,

no matter how objectionable that opinion is.

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aglynn (profile), 29 Oct 2015 @ 7:11am

Re: Re: Re: Re:

Never mind Mao, or Truman for that matter.

Mao alone was responsible for a larger genocide than all religious conflicts in history combined.

And he justified it specifically in the name of atheism.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 8:01am

Here is a thought

How about protecting everyone against hate crime?

Governments tend to be the worst discriminators.

Try practicing what you preach.

But common sense doesn’t get votes, does it?

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Richard (profile), 29 Oct 2015 @ 7:07am

Re: Hate Crime Laws

Hate crime laws are meant to protect those still on the wrong side of violent systemic discrimination. For that purpose they are valid.

No they are not. Ordinary laws, properly applied, will do that just fine. Hate crime laws simply give an unfair advantage to those who, whilst nominally belonging to the disadvantaged group, are in fact wealthy and powerful.

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THIRD ARTICLE :

Proposed Spanish Law Would Make Online Calls For Street Demonstrations, And Circulating Riot Images, Illegal

from the who-needs-militarized-police-to-muzzle-dissent? dept

Free Speech

by Glyn Moody

Tue, Dec 16th 2014 9:34am

Proposed Spanish Law Would Make Online Calls For Street Demonstrations, And Circulating Riot Images, Illegal

from the who-needs-militarized-police-to-muzzle-dissent? dept

Techdirt has been highlighting the growing problem of police militarization in the US for a while, and its huge impact on basic rights like free speech. But over in Spain, the government has taken a rather different approach to muzzling dissent. Rather than turning the police into a militia that can stop demonstrations through the use of overwhelming force, it’s aiming to bring in a new law that makes organizing and taking part in protests — both on the streets, and online — almost impossible. Here’s Global Voices’ summary of what the new “Protection of Public Safety Bill” currently proposes:

It is against the law to participate in a demonstration before a state institution without sending prior notification to the relevant government office.

Disobedience or resistance to authorities; refusing to identify oneself; and giving false or inaccurate information given to state security agents are all prohibited.

“Insulting, harassing, threatening, or coercing” members of the Security Forces will constitute a serious offense.

But in addition to these general measures, there are some aimed specifically at ending the use of the Internet to organize protests:

Those who call for demonstrations through the Internet, social networks, or another other means may also be penalized for having committed a very serious offense.

The circulation of riot images during demonstrations can also constitute a very serious offense, punishable by 600,000€.

Circulating information on the Internet that is understood to be an attack on an individual’s privacy or that of a person’s family, or that contributes to disrupting an operation, will be punished equally with fines up to 600,000€.

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The chilling effect that those last three will have on protests is clear. People will be reluctant to express any view that might be interpreted as calling for a demonstration, however vague. Forbidding riot images from being posted will, of course, mean that images of any police brutality against demonstrators are less likely to be circulated widely, removing one of the few brakes on violent police responses. And the last one concerning an “attack on privacy” is so vague that any mention of an individual might well be caught by it. In addition, anyone “insulting” Spain, its symbols or emblems, may be punished with up to a year’s imprisonment.

Despite pressure from the public and opposition politicians, the legislation has been passed by the Spanish Congress, and now goes to the Senate for final approval. That means the only thing likely to halt it is an appeal to Spain’s Constitutional Court. What’s worrying here is the very clear intent to bring in a law that makes the online organization and coverage of peaceful protests difficult or even impossible — something that many other governments would doubtlessly love to achieve, and may well even be encouraged to attempt if Spain goes ahead with this awful proposal.

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SOME COMMENTS

Nom du Clavier (profile), 16 Dec 2014 @ 8:22am

The circulation of riot images during demonstrations can also constitute a very serious offense, punishable by 600,000€.

Just publish them in Australia, it’s already the day after the demonstration there.

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Ninja (profile), 16 Dec 2014 @ 9:39am

Considering what they did in the news snippets and links case it’s not surprising that they are moving bad laws forward.

The conspiracy nut in me says the news move was intended to make it harder for the newspapers and this will be another nail in the coffin.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 9:44am

Dear Citizens…

We are removing more of your liberties.

~All Current Governments

There is currently no nation that stands for Liberty at this time.

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tqk (profile), 17 Dec 2014 @ 12:20pm

Re: Re: Dear Citizens…

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.

Seems he had it right

Easy answer: Who’s boot? Who’s face?

There’s enough anger extant out here that they should be worried, perhaps even afraid, for their lives. “The peasants are revolting!” Yeah, and they’re sharpening the guillotines.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 9:49am

and this is why the various governments are utilising what ever data gathering and surveillance they can!

it hasn’t and never has had anything to do with terrorists or terrorism, it has always been about trying to keep ahead of the people when we want to kick off like we did over ACTA.

if there are laws in place that prohibit any sort of demonstration, protest and any informing to others about protests, the security forces can get to the designated meeting places in time to stop things before they start

and the people can be arrested and banged up for doing the slightest of things !!.

the even bigger problem is that

if we are not careful,

the Planet is going to become one massive dictatorship

with individual leaders

and we will all become servants !

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Baron von Robber, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:11am

Franco is back in power ? =b

Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 1:20pm

Re: Catalonia should split while there’s still time.

Ultimately that is probably the main thing this law is meant to quell. That and the expected demonstrations starting when the next wave of economic cuts hit.

Spain, Italy and Greece are all turning bad in different ways:

– Spain is turning to oldschool repressive measures.

– Italy is turning towards their government instability and the massive corruption they know so well in politics. Especially after the new way to calculate economy.

– Greece is turning towards the most brutal fascist group in Europe at the moment (Golden Dawn) versus an activistic denialist coalition (Syriza).

Ireland and Portugal are the only countries who truely have left the PIIGS. Italy is on the fence towards recovering, Greece can at least see light at the end of the tunnel, while Spain still looks at a long darkness even if things are improving from horrible towards bad.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:26am

The government has watched the Arab spring, and are scared shitless. Modern communications allows people to self organize, without any real leaders, and that can be almost impossible for governments to deal with. So they think they had better take steps now to prevent that happening, little realizing that they are making a popular uprising more likely by doing so.

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Socrates, 16 Dec 2014 @ 3:02pm

A western spring might spring into action

Spain use might against the populace because might might be used against the privileged.

Sadly, the US and the rest of Europe also force the issue. Arming the police for massacres and occupation, dressing police officers as demonstrators and smashing windows, jamming of cell phones, erasing evidence, and making loyal mass medias utterly untrustworthy. And so on.

I assume crowd control is the motivation. Crowd as in the population.

This has gone wrong before.

Has they learned nothing from history?

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:35am

How does this tie in with the freedom of expression and freedom of assembly from the European Convention on Human Rights?

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:36am

Once again, another govenment must learn…

…that

those who make peaceful revolution impossible

make violent revolution inevitable.

Brendan O’Neill – hate speech laws & censorship make people stupid

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That One Guy (profile), 16 Dec 2014 @ 2:35pm

Re:

Oh they continue to be a representative government, it’s just they’re not representing the citizens at large, but only a small percentage of them.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 6:02pm

When a government is no longer willing to listen to it’s people. Why would people continue to bestow such a government with consent and authority?

The obvious answer is because the Spanish thug department will use physical violence against those attempting to undermine the government’s authority.

My answer is undermine their authority in little ways during your every day life.

Death by a thousand cuts.

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Anonymous Coward, 17 Dec 2014 @ 2:04am

Psssh Span is a dead country anyway.

All prepped to be kicked out of the Euro in June 2015…riots everywhere, fascist draconian laws in place.

Judges bought off with foreign currency, and a government that openly murders anyone that looks like they might be a political challenge.

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here we go again, 17 Dec 2014 @ 4:37pm

So, it’s not law yet…

That means it’s still legal to call for action now…

I hereby call for political protests and sharing of pictures taken at said protests by the good citizens of Spain.

If this crap becomes law then ignore it.

Continue to dissent and protest.

If the government continues to oppress then revolt any way you can.

To the rest of the world, it’s time to South Park this thing; Catman-bra style…

Somebody make a trendy hashtag and let’s get some shirts printed, stat!

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GEMont (profile), 19 Dec 2014 @ 12:58pm

Give those folks a bigger shovel, please!

Damn.

I’d swear Spain must have gotten itself a truly christian government,

because they certainly do apperar to be hell bent on taking their entire country to the “other side” as fast as possible.

Is there a word for national insanity??

How about national suicide??

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General De GAULLE wants you to know that, in Europe, you are going to make state censorship appear and to make satire and humour disappear. The harmful consequences of european state censorship are illustrated by the italian example. In Europe, Italy is the second country to have voted for the same « german » hate speech law without exercising its critical thinking.

 

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Back on January 27, 2018 on my blog, « Dèu vos guard », the General De GAULLE has given me a press article to be published online about german state censorship. Never forget that European governments have a dictatorial history of using civil defamation actions to stifle political opposition.

https://deuvosguard.org/2018/01/27/from-general-de-gaulle-german-hate-speech-law-is-the-future-of-europe-first-in-germany-then-in-italy-spain-great-britain-and-france-would-you-believe-surprise-surprise/

These governmental agreements enacting hate speech law are indicative of the extent of the European Union’s repression of its critics and political opponents. However, events have recently taken, rather unexpectedly, an unfortunate and dangerous turn.

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Hero or criminal  ? That is censorship to say it.

All dictatorships must end, including dictatorship in this Union, the European Union.

We have to break the dictatorship of this oligarchy.

YOU have to break the dictatorship of this global governance.

A great war with a worldwide scope is starting.

The prejudices and sectarianism which are encouraged under this global dictatorship have appeared and armed terrorist gangs had been pressing their political and ethnic demands for over ten years in the urban areas of your european countries.

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Nazi books burning.

Saying « NO » to dictatorship does not automatically guarantee the rule of law and democracy.

No dictatorship was ever overthrown without much sacrifice and long struggle.

YOU MUST STRUGGLE FOR YOUR FREEDOM !

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First, dictatorship itself is ugly and unacceptable.

Second, secular dictatorship excludes christian REPUBLICAN parties from participating normally in the political system.

However the concept of free speech has always held an important place in our democratic tradition.

These hate speech laws and other same bills based on german authoritarian government, the head of socialist Europe, raise serious concerns about freedom of expression and religion.

All this is because european governments want to stifle freedom of expression during coming elections.

It is not the European Union’s place with its submitted governments to its oligarchic authority

  • to restrict

  • freedom of speech

  • during elections.

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The false pretext of economic regulations strengthens the grip of oligarchic cliques in european governments,

  • weakens faith in public authority,

  • increases alienation, dissatisfaction and social troubles.

The dictatorship of the single common European market inevitably results in the dictatorship of a single regulation.

Then the dictatorship does away with the courts altogether.

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It’s not acceptable that the requirements a citizen must obey upon pain of criminal prosecution be determined by a single government official who decides what will or will not include the terms and conditions of artistic licence and free speech.

It is these public servants who review suggested redactions provided by medias or free bloggers.

The law would increase the executive authorities’ powers to control and thus to censor everything printed in newspapers, as well as other media and other published material.

The law also gives the government the right to censor and close down newspapers at will in the name of national security.

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The worst is that you have given this constitutional right of state censorship to simple merchants.

European governments stated that social networks were known as collaborators and dealers who sold rights of free speech to Internet users.

Although they may not be seized, inspected or censored without a substantiated order issued by a magistrate for a specific period,

  • proving that an interesting subject might not be taken seriously as a topic for a political debate by corrupted politicians and stupid peoples who elected them.

It seems FOR YOU that we are discussing two different things, although they are interlinked.

But you have given the illegal right to be cut out of the cyberspace by simple merchants.

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Recognize

that some businesses help authorities

in repressive countries

to censor

  • and mount surveillance of the Internet,

and others turn a blind eye to the use of their equipment.

More and more governments have realised that the Internet can play a key role in the fight for

  • or against democracy

  • and they are establishing new methods of censoring it.

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But in some circumstances its democratic denial by the elected assembly would amount to the exercise of a last resort political power to censor the judiciary, and to a constitutional crisis.

The Commission may also choose to censor their report on similar grounds, after consulting with what is vaguely termed “the authorized bodies”.

Because a no-confidence decision is accepted if it has been passed by the majority of all parliamentarians, this will turn out to be an impossible mission.

Nonetheless, the overthrow of a democratically elected government by the military cannot be glossed over.

The election rigging, the graft… none of which you’re interested in.

Or maybe YOU’RE just interested in to play games and get paid for it.

You’d still rather be playing video games.

But life is not a video game.

LIFE IS YOUR REALITY.

YOUR REAL LIFE IS YOUR PRISON, stay home and play video games.

Mostly playing video games and listening to terrible top-40 pop music.

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New Global Oligarchy is the winner

  • In french, the « N.O.M. », for « Nouvel Ordre Mondial »

  • rough translation the « Name of « Mund»», it is to say :- the « New World Order ».

On one side, the king of your atheist world, with his trillions in oil wealth, the protection of the world energy oligarchy.

His most important function is to protect the criminal oligarchs from prosecution and engage in torture.

It is impossible for individual countries to confront the oligarchies that exercise power in the global arena.

Because of the rapidly spreading globalization of markets and the emergence of powerful transnational oligarchies, the normative power of States has been degenerating at an increasing pace.

But beneath all this apparent jumble of bric-a-brac :

  • lie the two key notes of the oligarchic sect that governs us,

  • namely contempt for the people and the quest for an obscure world « governance ».

 

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The consensus existing was that you cannot censor the media, you cannot tell them what to do.

The globalization driven by ICT

  • must not bring back the centralized autocratic or oligarchic regimes

  • which it was to be hoped, had died with the twentieth century,

  • but must be based on a free flow of ideas.

Write naturally without censoring yourself,

  • telling the truth in your own language.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/05/opinions/italy-beppe-grillo-opinion-ben-ghiat/index.html

Meet Italy’s Donald Trump

By Ruth Ben-Ghiat

Updated 2358 GMT (0758 HKT) December 5, 2016

[Ben-Ghiat : Italy’s vote was a huge victory for movement founded by comedian turned populist politician Beppe Grillo, who compares himself to Donald Trump and has shown a similar genius for marketing

Pull of illiberalism seems irresistible to many, she writes

Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a frequent contributor to CNN Opinion, and professor of history and Italian studies at New York University.

Founded in 2009, it became a political force to contend with when it received more than 25% in the 2013 elections. Yet its platform is still so eclectic that it’s been called “post-ideological.” It draws in large numbers of young people for its support of web-based democracy, the environment, and sustainable development, and its harsh critiques of globalization and big business.

[…]

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Voters in Italy, Austria send message to EU leaders: Hold on tight

Yet the Five Star Movement certainly does not map onto progressive politics as traditionally defined. Five Star members are economic protectionists, partial to conspiracy theories, and take a hard line against Islam and immigration.

Grillo’s corrosive comedy has included a “joke” that Sadiq Khan, London’s Muslim mayor, might “blow himself up in Westminster.”

And while the party’s mantra is direct democracy, Grillo has a rather dictatorial personality. Perhaps that’s why he adds his name to the many European politicians who admire Vladimir Putin (the Italian newspaper La Stampa reported that Russian sites were spreading fake news designed to help Grillo).

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https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/04/europe/italian-referendum-beppe-grillo-profile/index.html

Italian referendum: Who is Beppe Grillo?

By Sheena McKenzie, CNN

Updated 0523 GMT (1323 HKT) December 5, 2016

An anti-establishment entertainer?

Grillo, 68, founded the party in 2009 after making a name for himself on Italian TV in the 1970s and 1980s. He capitalized on his show-business bravado to promote an anti-establishment movement spanning both the left and right of politics.

He’s used to entertaining the public, so his speeches are also very entertaining,” said Vincenzo Scarpetta, senior policy analyst at think tank Open Europe.

“Even if you don’t speak Italian, if you watch his body language you can see he’s always very expressive and entertaining — he moves a lot, running back and forth on stage.”

Grillo has called for greater transparency in government, holding “V-Day” rallies — short for an Italian expletive beginning with V — which he says also invoke the revolutionary spirit of “V for Vendetta.”

“He’s definitely a straight-talking guy,” said Scarpetta.

Grillo’s party’s politics may be harder to pin down.

“It’s difficult to place the movement on the political spectrum, precisely because they have refused so far to be categorized as either left or right wing,” Scarpetta added.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/04/europe/italian-referendum-beppe-grillo-profile/index.html

Beppe Grillo,

The clown prince of Italian politics.

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It’s why european politicians have decided

to make state censorship appear

  • and to make satire and humour disappear !

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An ancient tradition in France, comics like COLUCHE and Pierre DAC are presidential candidates,

  • even Emmanuel MACRON, called “the new COLUCHE” by the ex- french president François HOLLANDE. But french people do not laugh at his jokes !

http://www.gala.fr/l_actu/news_de_stars/pour_francois_hollande_emmanuel_macron_est_le_coluche_de_2017_364004

Pour François Hollande, Emma­nuel Macron est le Coluche de 2017

UN COMPLI­MENT DE « MONSIEUR PETITES BLAGUES »

Martin Choteau | jeudi 28 avril 2016 à 08:22

[ Dans le dernier numéro du Canard Enchaîné, on peut lire les tensions qui animent le gouver­ne­ment de l’inté­rieur. Et s’il est un ministre qui a le don d’agacer certains de ses collègues, c’est bien le ministre de l’écono­mie, Emma­nuel Macron. Mais pour François Hollande, le jeune poli­tique a beau s’agiter, il n’est qu’un clown, ou plutôt un « Coluche », dans la bouche du président de la Répu­blique, qui consi­dère qu’il ne repré­sente pas un danger. […]]

François HOLLANDE was wrong as usually, the only rule that he has respected in his so long presidence,

  • to be wrong.

gal

The “new President of France !”,

  • the new COLUCHE ! 
  • No, it’s wrong too !

Emmanuel MACRON is not “the new COLUCHE”,

  • because COLUCHE would have pledged to pass a freedom of information bill
  • that would allow citizens to find out how their taxes are spent
  • and to struggle against corruption of politicians and public officials.

Emmanuel MACRON pledges to pass a hate speech law, like in Germany, to struggle against french freedom of expression, a constitutional right in France.

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In France, there was a time when socialist politicians killed comics by dictatorial censorship

  • and it seems that they would have wanted to physically eliminate them. The presidential candidate COLUCHE died in a tragic trafic accident the June 9th, 1986.

The corrupt dictatorships of european countries deprive their people, women especially, of the most basic human, social and economic rights

  • which explains their interest for fascisms,

  • claiming to fight against racism and anti-Semitism

  • but for some inexplicable reason taking measures to bolster the « islamic Nazism ».

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REMEMBER, the CNN reporter noted in his press article that :

– « Five Stars members are economic protectionists, partial to conspiracy theories, and take a hard line against Islam and immigration. »

And Beppe GRILLO, the «  clown », is the leader of the political party « Five Star movement ».

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Although it may be a criminal decision with painful consequences, it seems smarter

  • to bring some comic programmes to an end,

  • or not to begin them at all,

  • rather than under-finance them, what is further suspect because it’s a political discriminatory practice far too much overly visible to the general public

  • or rather than physically kill political clowns that is more reprehensible with possibility to expose the future defendant to an obvious risk of a criminal conviction which is intended to reflect public outrage.

Now remember and determine to change the future.

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Read the following press article from a very clever blog [www.techdirt.com]  and decide how it pertains to your experience.

As I have told you many times, it is YOU, the people

  • who decide your future

  • and the dark is head to head for their goal :

  • to propagandize the European people.

Resist the urge to belittle seemingly “silly” problems and try to keep an open mind.

Read on to learn about how you can protect YOU, the people !

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First press article

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160919/17403635566/italy-proposes-law-to-make-mocking-people-online-illegal.shtml

Italy Proposes Law To Make Mocking People Online Illegal

from the what-a-stupid-fucking-law dept

Free Speech

by Mike Masnick

Tue, Sep 20th 2016 10:43am

Every so often, we see (probably) well-intentioned, but incredibly stupid, attempts to “fight” online harassment and bullying through laws that make saying things that are “offensive” against the law. In the US, such laws (if they actually get passed) are usually thrown out once someone makes a First Amendment challenge over them, but elsewhere in the world there’s no First Amendment to fall back on. Over in Italy, some officials have proposed what may be one of the dumbest such laws in history, written so broadly that it will outlaw a lot more than the kind of “cyberbullying” it’s supposedly intended to combat:

Under the proposed law, the “site manager” of Italian media, including bloggers, newspapers and social networks would be obliged to censor “mockery” based on “the personal and social condition” of the victim — that is, anything the recipient felt was personally insulting. The penalty for failing to take action is a fine of €100,000. Truthfulness is not a defense in suits under this law — the standard is personal insult, not falsehood.

Yes, mockery on the internet could get you a €100,000 fine. Mockery. The internet. The internet is made for mockery. And now is the time that everyone should be mocking this idiotic law — and the politicians who proposed it without having the slightest idea of how such a thing would be abused all the time. As Cory Doctorow at BoingBoing notes:

… what it will do is create a tool for easy censorship without due process or penalty for misuse. The standard proposed in the bill is merely that the person on the receiving end of the argument feel aggrieved. Think of the abuse of copyright takedowns: online hosts already receive millions of these, more than they could possibly evaluate, and so we have a robo-takedown regime that lets the rich and powerful routinely remove material that puts them in an unflattering light.

As bad as that is, at least it makes censorship contingent on something specific and objective: copyright infringement, which has a wealth of caselaw defining its contours. Indeed, so much that you need to be a trained expert to adjudicate a claim of infringement. But at least you can objectively assess whether a copyright infringement has taken place.

The standard set by the proposed Italian law allows for purely subjective claims to be made, and for enormous penalties to be imposed on those who question them before undertaking sweeping acts of censorship.

There are some efforts under way to “improve” the law by making it not quite so draconian, but maybe, just maybe, the “improvement” should be to recognize that you’re never going to successfully outlaw mockery on the internet.

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Some comments :

  • Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2016 @ 10:55am

Quick everyone

Let’s all mock Italy while it’s still legal!

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  • Norahc, 20 Sep 2016 @ 11:05am

Vacation places

If this law passed, it will be one more place on the ever growing list of countries Mike won’t be able to visit.

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  • crade (profile), 20 Sep 2016 @ 11:10am

Re: HowThisWouldLookIntheUSA

These things don’t fail horribly, they just keep compounding removing freedoms bit by bit and giving people time to adjust like a frog being boiled slowly so it doesn’t jump out of the water.

The differences you perceive are superficial.

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  • Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2016 @ 11:25am

Re: Re: HowThisWouldLookIntheUSA

It is a tried and true method for getting gullible people to hand away all of their rights without much protest.

If I orchestrated a way to have your child kidnapped, then orchestrated the safe retrieval of your child despite you having lost much of your wealth, you would have profusely thanked me for it.

In many ways this is how government works EXACTLY! They are usually the cause of the problems to start with… and of course they will have a solution for it too, and a solution for the problems the new solution caused and yet again, solutions to the problem that the solution to the other problem caused as well.

Before you know it, there are so many laws throughout time that it is impossible to determine if you are free or just a sad prisoner living under the illusion that you are free because you still have the choice to buy a bag of beans to feed your family or a bag of rice.

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  • Jeremy, 21 Sep 2016 @ 12:28pm

Re: HowThisWouldLookIntheUSA

How handy to define the kind of speech that you want to have regulated as ‘business speech’, as if businesses were not made up of…people. Ideas are ideas. Speech is speech. It doesn’t matter who’s doing it. As long as you’re not inciting to riot or shouting fire in a crowded movie theater FOR THE PURPOSE OF CAUSING A PANIC (it’s legal if you really think there’s a fire…), then it’s legal. The Founders knew how gov’ts tend to want to prohibit the right to free speech, so they gave us the 1st Amendment. No matter how offensive it is to others, it is legal. ‘Hate speech’ legislation is tyranny.

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  • a state sponsored troll, 20 Sep 2016 @ 12:13pm

Can I reserve my cell?

I know it’s meant to be just a fine but I want to get the nice one with the window reserved, as they’ll probably change it to jail time in a few months.

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[#Metoo]

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  • Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2016 @ 12:19pm

The law is a mockery

This law is a mockery itself and the people who pass it should be fined.

  • x, 20 Sep 2016 @ 12:57pm

What a bunch of idiots….

They have made a mockery of themselves….

So under their own law, they need to arrest themselves, find themselves guilty (they already are), then fine themselves and throw themselves in prison.

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  • Curzio, 21 Sep 2016 @ 3:14pm

This law makes a mockery of due process and thereby, in Italy, makes the Law an ass. It is contrary to law itself. Italians who are free have the duty to disobey it.

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  • Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 22 Sep 2016 @ 6:22am

A cunning plan

Totally a brilliant idea – assuming you’re an Italian politician of course:

Step 1 / Pass really stupid law outlawing mockey.

Step 2 / Use really stupid law to sue anyone who points out it’s a really stupid law because they’re mocking your work.

Step 3 / Profit!  

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Second press article

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20161230/11203336378/now-italy-wants-to-make-fake-news-illegal.shtml

Now Italy Wants To Make ‘Fake News’ Illegal

from the but-can-you-define-it ? Dept

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick

Tue, Jan 3rd 2017 3:25am

[ Now Italy Wants To Make ‘Fake News’ Illegal

from the but-can-you-define-it? dept

Over and over again, we’ve talked about the ridiculousness of the moral panic around so-called “fake news” — a broad and somewhat meaningless term now used to describe just about anything from actual made-up stories, to news articles that have a small factual error, to those with a “spin” that someone disagrees with. And, as we warned, the panic of “fake news” is leading to widespread calls for censorship. A few weeks ago, we wrote about how German officials were supporting a plan to criminalize “fake news” and now Italy wants to join in on the fun. In an interview with the country’s antitrust chief, Giovanni Pitruzzella, he argued that it’s really time to crack down on the internet, with government wielding the censorship power over whatever it calls “fake news.”

Post-truth in politics is one of the drivers of populism and it is one of the threats to our democracies,” Pitruzzella said. “We have reached a fork in the road: we have to choose whether to leave the internet like it is, the wild west, or whether it needs rules that appreciate the way communication has changed. I think we need to set those rules and this is the role of the public sector.”

Pitruzzella argued tackling fake news should not be left up to social media companies, but instead be tackled by the state through independent authorities with the power to remove fake news and impose fines, coordinated by Brussels, similar to the way the EU regulates competition.

Any time you hear of a plan for the government to be able to remove news stories or impose fines for reporting, you should get very, very worried. That is a recipe for censorship. Yes, blatantly made-up stories are a problem — but not one that should be dealt with by expanding the tools of censorship in a way that will be abused. We need to teach better media literacy and get more people to understand how to read critically and to do research. Putting tools to censor and fine journalists in the hands of government will inevitably lead to that power being abused. Someone will report on something that makes a politician look bad, and suddenly it will be declared “fake news.” We’re seeing that happen already — even without the threat of fines and censorship.

This focus on “fake news” is becoming increasingly dangerous and many of the people screaming loudest about it — including lots of journalists — don’t seem to realize where it will end. You can worry about truly made-up stories all you want, but if you think the solution to it is to increase the powers to censor and stifle and chill expression, you’re not going to be happy with how it boomerangs back on legitimate expression.]

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Some comments :

  • Anonymous Coward, 3 Jan 2017 @ 4:01am

How does one distinguish between satire and political spin as applied to stories? Will the politicians put into practice their usual “do as we say and not as we do”?

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  • Anonymous Coward, 3 Jan 2017 @ 7:11am

Mussolini would be proud.

Same old same old.

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  • Ninja (profile), 3 Jan 2017 @ 8:26am

The “terrorism” bogeyman isn’t working anymore. They had to choose a new target.

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Third press article

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180120/08134839049/italian-government-criminalizes-fake-news-provides-direct-reporting-line-to-state-police-force.shtml

Italian Government Criminalizes ‘Fake News,’ Provides Direct Reporting Line To State Police Force

from the let-a-bold-new-era-of-SWATing-begin! dept

Free Speech

by Tim Cushing

Wed, Jan 24th 2018 9:40am

No one knows how to handle “fake news.” Rather than step back and see what light-touch approaches might work, governments all over the world are rushing forward with bad ideas that harm speech and threaten journalism. No one seems to be immune to the “do something” infection and everything proposed is just another way to give governments more direct control of social media platforms and news outlets.

In Italy, the government control of speech under the guide of “fake news” deterrence is being done in the worst way possible. It’s not being handed to a regulatory body with instructions to sort of keep an eye on things. Instead, as Poynter reports, it’s rolling out as a heckler’s veto backed by armed officers.

In an effort to address fake news ahead of this year’s elections, the Italian government has created an online portal where people can report hoaxes.

The portal, which Interior Minister Marco Minniti announced Thursday, prompts users to supply their email address, a link to the misinformation they’re reporting and any social networks they found it on.

Then the requests are ferried to authorities at the Polizia Postale, a unit of the state police that investigates cyber crime, who will fact-check them and — if laws were broken — pursue legal action. In cases where no laws were broken, the service will still draw upon official sources to deny false or misleading information.

It seems as though this could be handled without government interference — especially not the sort that might result in armed officers showing up at a press agency’s HQ, demanding rebuttals, deletions, or arrests of fake news offenders. The government’s anti-fake news effort even gives the government a platform for “more speech,” which is all speech like this really needs to be greeted with.

Getting facts wrong should be a black eye (not literally!) for journalists, rather than a criminal offense. Fake news spread maliciously should be greeted with little more than fact checking and debunking. This can — and should — be handled by journalists and citizens. Giving the government a platform for debunking caters to its innate desire to control the narrative in questionable situations. The government is certainly welcome to present its own side and deliver facts that rebut claims made by others. But it doesn’t need legislation to do this and it certainly does not need to bring law enforcement into the mix.

Adding to the host of problems is the fact that “fake news” hasn’t been clearly defined by the government. True, the term resists strict definition, but the lack of discernible contours means the government can simply target any speech it doesn’t like and force the issue by handing it over to the police force. The opening of an online portal invites further abuse by citizens who prefer shouting down people with opposing views, rather than engaging in constructive discussions.

Whenever the police is given the task of dealing with the truth and falsehood of news and political content, yes, those who care about democracy should be worried — not feel protected,” [journalist Fabio] Chiusi said. “Citizens in healthy democracies don’t need to be protected from falsehood of this sort: they should be able to freely exercise their judgment, with no interference from state authorities — especially the police.”

Arianna Ciccone, founder of the International Journalism Festival, agreed. She told Poynter in an email that the initiative — which Chiusi said doesn’t offer a counter-measure for those who might be falsely accused — opens up the possibility of future infringements of free speech by the government, as well as a potential cooling effect on the press.

In short: If journalists are too afraid that making a mistake will result in legal intervention, what will go uncovered?

Reporters will not only shy away from publishing articles while details are still emerging, but will also be deterred from publishing anything the government might disagree with. The term “fake news” has become shorthand for news anyone disagrees with, whether or not the contents are untrue. This gives the Italian government free rein to harass news outlets it doesn’t like. Even if journalists are ultimately cleared of criminal charges, they’ll be forced to spend time and money defending themselves and the outlets they work for will likely face future harassment from authorities. Once you’re on law enforcement’s radar, you’re there forever. It’s the newsroom equivalent of inner city life, where merely existing in a “high crime” area exposes you to constant, unprovoked “interactions” with law enforcement.

Normally, I’d say something like “the legislation’s aim is noble,” but in the case of governments v. fake news, that can’t even be said. The term eludes strict definition which is the sort of thing you definitely need if you’re going to regulate speech. Providing a direct pipeline to police mobilization is perhaps the worst “solution” presented so far. And as the anti-fake news effort picks up steam, the ripple effect will move beyond harassed journalists to every Italian citizen who’s “liked” or retweeted social media posts deemed “fake news” by a law enforcement entity.

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Some comments :

  • Regret, 24 Jan 2018 @ 11:08am

Could be worrisome, but these are Italian police

Two Carabinieri are in front of a mirror.

The first one says, “Look, two colleagues. Let’s go say hello.”

The other says, “No, let’s just wait. It looks like they’re coming this way.”

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  • Anonymous Coward, 24 Jan 2018 @ 11:09am

No one seems to be immune to the “do something” infection and everything proposed is just another way to give governments more direct control of social media platforms and news outlets.

I’m pretty sure that’s because giving government more direct control over social media and news outlets is the point of most of this. “Fake News” has been around a long time. It simply used to be called things like yellow journalism, propaganda, or gossip. Governments are only leaping to “do something” about it because now that it’s called “fake news” a bunch of people are panicking and politicians see the chance to give themselves a mandate to censor media outlets old, new, or ‘social’. They’re hoping to publish enough people for gossiping on the internet, that when the next election roles around, everyone will fear to say anything bad about them, even if it’s true.

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  • Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 24 Jan 2018 @ 12:32pm

Sounds kinda familiar…

The state deciding what is and isn’t true in news and political reporting… What could possibly go wrong?

The UK government seems to be doing something similar – an [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42791218] “anti-fake news unit”… Guess “Ministry of Truth” was too copyright…?

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Vive la France LIBRE !

Clairvoyance – From John WAYNE : – “Best wishes for 2018, Donald TRUMP ! You are the best ! Don’t forget that. The best president of the USA ! You are the right man at the right time. You had no choice but struggle for life, YOUR choice, save the USA and save your country from the Third World War !”

[L’avertissement de redirection  vers un autre site qui peut apparaître sur cette page est de la CENSURE indirecte. Cette redirection n’est pas voulue par moi.  Merci de ne pas tomber dans le piège de “Big Brother” !]

[Translation in english : The redirection filter module of WordPress includes a data redirection not wanted by me. It is ILLEGAL CENSORSHIP. Thank you for not falling into this trap of Big Brother !] 

 

Donald Trump

 

Don’t fight against Russia.

They want to force you to fight against Russia.

Rather than battle a country, Russia, with which USA share the same religion, Christianity, and are close in many ways, you should resolve these issues through discussion.

Better !, you should avoid the dangers of a Third World War with Russia.

Join christian and occidental Company in a fight through deadly terrorist countries with desert cities and never forget vast arctic terrain on a mission to defuse WWIII.

You have to fight together against islamist plague and eliminate the risks of an atomic warfare in Europe wanted by NATO and their big arms dealers.

The actions of unscrupulous and predatory arms merchants also bear special mention.

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You know that, guy, YOU KNOW THEM !

Your guess is as good as mine.

Preventing the Third World War must be a shared ambition.

You know that, about Vladimir POUTINE’s peace initiative, your only friend at the moment in this « panier de crabes »

[- in french in the text, “clin d’oeil”, “wink” of, de John WAYNE, a little concession for me, the french medium]

  • That is to say in english :  “In your environment, they’re always at each other’s throats”.

Your only friend, at the moment,  the ancient president of Russia, Vladimir POUTINE, as you already know, will be the next president of Russia,

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– LIKE YOU  !

You, who are the current and ancient president of the USA,

  • but also, – you must already have understood -,

  • you,

  • who will be the new president of the USA, next time.

In order to commemorate the Second World War, when the USA free Western Europe from nazism and Russia Eastern Europe from the same nazism, you and Vladimir POUTINE will fight against fascism, islamism and anti-semitism, the neo-nazism :

  • under the heading « UNITED, we are strong ».

Because a war against Russia is wanted by coward NATO.

Don’t fall into that trap, a big trap for christian countries.

Because NATO does not honour its members fighting against an ally, Russia which overcame with USA those who sought to burn a free society to the ground during the Second World War.

Remember, always united, how we fought terrorism against those who want to destroy christian peace in occidental world.

And Russia belongs to our occidental world, not islamist Turkey which is surprisingly integrated in NATO.

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This proove that NATO,

  • which was made up of christian states, with, from 1952, one exception, Turkey,
  • is an organisation of courtiers for the usual ones : mostly a mixture of flattery, hypocrisy, toadyism and even duplicity, finishing up in the goods of this world and the vanities of the age.

NATO is showing today that it is not listening the lessons of history.

I’d like to dedicate this article to a real American hero.

– « Like me , cow-boy ! »

  • I would say “Donald TRUMP”, of course !
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Thank you, Veronica, for allowing me to tell my message.

God bless America and God bless a free Europe !