Le Seigneur à Georges SOROS : – “2019 !”

 

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  • “Noirs et Blancs, Blancs et Noirs, même destin”,
  • comme l’avaient annoncé les grands Prophètes noirs
  • dont le Prophète chrétien, Simon KIMBANGU, un grand “résistant”.

 

– “Et ?”, me direz-vous.

– “Rien d’autre.

R.A.S..

-Rien à signaler… d’autre !

  • “2019”, c’est tout.”

 

 

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  • “Pour Georges SOROS, l’Union Européenne est en temps de guerre !” 

– C’est tout ce que le Seigneur veut que j’écrive pour et à l’adresse de Georges SOROS.

  • Inutile de faire des spéculations.
  • Inutile de développer davantage.

Car c’est bien souvent quand je tente, avant l’événement,

-ou plutôt l’avènement de l’événement,

-de donner des explications sur ce que “j’ai reçu” que je me plante…

– Alors qu’une fois l’avènement survenu, tout devient simple à déchiffrer dans le “Livre de la Vie”

  • ou dans le “Livre des morts”.

 

 

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Mon livre préféré, comme livre des morts, est le “Bardo Thodol“, livre tibétain, donc bouddhiste.

– C’est un manuel de survie indispensable dans l’au-delà pour ceux qui ne croyaient en rien sur terre.

Je rappelle que beaucoup d’entre nous qui nous croyons vivants, dans les faits, sont déjà morts.

– “Ce sont des sépulchres vivants qui accompagnent d’autres morts à leur enterrement“, disait déjà un certain Jésus, cité par ses disciples dans les Evangiles.

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  • C’est encore une question que nous pose Jésus !

 

Donc, la mort…, la vie…, c’est juste une appréciation humaine, un ressenti subjectif illusoire.

Pour ceux qui ne comprendraient pas cette connaissance démontrée scientifiquement par la physique quantique, que nous pouvons tout à la fois être morts et vivants, je les invite à lire un autre livre de la spiritualité hindoue :

– “la Bhagavad-Gita”.

Je rappelle que le Mahatma GANDHI, résistant “indien” sous l’occupation anglaise, avait pour livres de chevet deux livres de Vie :

– “les Evangiles“,

[J’ai écrit “les Evangiles“, pas le “Nouveau Testament” dans son ensemble, ni encore moins “l’Ancien Testament“, substitut de la Torah juive]

– et “la Bhagavad-Gita”.

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  • Nous sommes tous pécheurs.
  • Mais qui a sauvé son pays pacifiquement d’une occupation étrangère comme le Mahatma GANDHI, celui-là ou celle-la pourra le critiquer !

Il ne me semble pas que ces deux ouvrages aient porté préjudice à la capacité spirituelle et politique du “Mahatma”, la “Grande Âme”, le “Mahatma” GANDHI, à conduire son pays vers l’indépendance par l’application du principe de “l’Ahimsa”, la “non-violence”,

– le refus de tuer devenu, chez les premiers Chrétiens, leur cri de reconnaissance, le “Non possumus” latin, (“Nous ne pouvons pas…” – tuer) quand ils refusaient de se battre dans les arènes des jeux du cirque romain ou contre les soldats et les païens qui les assassinaient, en bénissant leurs ennemis.

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Pour Michel ONFRAY, je suis obligée de préciser que :
  • La naissance du Christianisme, le VRAI Christianisme non-violent,  est attestée dans les jeux du cirque (IIe siècle),
– bien avant l’Empereur Constantin et sa renonciation aux persécutions contre les Chrétiens en 313. 
  • Dans les spiritualités du “renoncement”, il y a une force VITALE incroyable !

Et pendant que j’écris ce texte, des centaines de milliers d’agneaux innocents sont égorgés conscients et vivants sur le sol de France, un pays autrefois chrétien.

Le Christianisme, par le sacrifice d’un seul homme, a mis fin à tous les sacrifices humains et animaux.

  • Là aussi, ce n’est ni plus, ni moins que l’accomplissement de la Loi juive rappelé par le Juif Jésus qui était un rabbin.

Le Seigneur condamne la violence, tout acte pouvant nuire à la Vie.

– “Georges SOROS, je ne sais pas ce que signifie “2019” !

  • Peut-être est-ce une date, l’année prochaine, par exemple ?

Peut-être n’est-ce qu’un chiffre dont la signification sera révélée en temps voulu par le Seigneur ?”

Le Seigneur me demande juste d’ajouter :

– “Prépare-toi, György (Georges) dit SOROS !

  • “SOROS”, comme “SORROW”…

Le chagrin des peuples envahis.

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Macronleaks

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uknVoC9gW0

And now – there’s only

Sorrow

Sorrow

“SORROW” by MORT SHUMAN

“Sorrow”

  • Un secret sans doute que Georges SOROS partage avec le Seigneur dans son coeur…

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  • I hope for him that it’s a fake new.
  • If not…Woe to him !
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From General De GAULLE : – “In Europe, first Germany, secondly Italy and THIRDLY SPAIN passed on HATE SPEECH LAWS to control INTERNET sites. Remember : suppressing alternative information sources, Franco’s regime in Spain to historical Mussolini’s fascism in Italy by way of Hitler’s nazism in Germany imposed its will on the population. »

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NO COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO IMPOSE ITS WILL UPON OTHER COUNTRIES.

Today we understand FASCISM as FRANCO’s Spain, MUSSOLINI’s Italy and HITLER’s Germany.

From three fascists european regimes, spanish, italian and german regimes, the dismal memory of the past can contribute to human rights as long as it is revealed and repaired.

Here we seem to have a rule of peremptory law which, far from protecting the most vulnerable population, forbids them to express themselves freely especially if they are political opponents.

So nowadays what d’you see ?

The return of FASCISM is NOW obviously visible in European Union.

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STATE CENSORSHIP is based on a threatening nature of FASCIST ideology.

And TODAY, Britain, then France have also enacted HATE SPEECH LAWS under german dictatorship, it is to say, fascist european censorship.

Yes, many of the countries concerned have adopted hate speech laws that not only ensured impunity to authoritarian regimes for the current european gouvernments but, in effect, also impeded investigations by the justice systems against these politicians and civil servants

  • who must NOT abuse their authority

  • or must NOT use their power or position in a manner that is offensive, humiliating, embarrassing or intimidating to another person,

  • above all even when this person is a POLITICAL OPPONENT.

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It was not acceptable for a small group of people to attempt to impose their will and misguided ideology on others through the use of force and terror tactics ;

  • european people should be free to choose the type of government under which they wished to live.

The german government’s desire to impose its will on the majority of the european countries is therefore potentially dangerous.

Now let’s look at what happens in Spain, a former fascist country like two others european countries, Germany and Italy.

For that, look at the excellent blog http://www.techdirt.com/

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Italy and Germany

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FIRST ARTICLE :

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180120/05380339047/spanish-government-uses-hate-speech-law-to-arrest-critic-spanish-government.shtml

Spanish Government Uses

Hate Speech Law

To Arrest Critic

Of The Spanish Government

from the shocked-SHOCKED-to-find-such-a-predictable-use-of-a-bad-law dept

Free Speech

by Tim Cushing

Thu, Jan 25th 2018 10:36 am

[ Spain’s government has gotten into the business of regulating speech with predictably awful results. An early adopter of Blues Lives Matter-esque policies, Spain went full police state, passing a law making it a crime to show “disrespect” to law enforcement officers. The predictable result? The arrest of someone for calling cops “slackers” in a Facebook post.

Spain’s government is either woefully unaware of the negative consequences of laws like this or, worse, likes the negative consequences. After all, it doesn’t hurt Spain’s government beyond a little reputational damage. It only hurts residents of Spain. When you’re already unpopular, thanks to laws like these and suppression of a Catalan independence vote, what difference does it make if you’re known better for shutting down dissent than actually protecting citizens from hateful speech?

One Catalan resident is getting the full “hate speech” rap-and-ride.

A Catalan high school teacher, Manel Riu, appeared in court on Thursday accused of hate speech for his tweets and Facebook posts criticizing Spain, government members and the Guardia Civil police. Over a hundred people escorted him to court in Tremp, west of Catalonia, where he denied any wrongdoing and asked for the case’s dismissal.

As a Catalan, Riu certainly has reason to criticize the Spanish government. During the last attempted referendum, the Spanish government sent police to seize ballots, voters’ cellphones, and ordered Google to remove a voting location app from the Play store. The evidence against Riu is composed of 119 tweets gathered by the Guardia Civil, Spain’s oldest law enforcement agency — one that blurs the line between playing soldier and playing cop far more often than its US counterparts.

One tweet apparently compared Spain to hell. The rest are presumably similarly unflattering. Hyperbolic venting by unhappy citizens is to be expected. It also should be protected. Insulating the government from unhappy citizens never works out well. But that’s how Spain is handling dissent: by sending out the most “police state” wing of its police forces to arrest people for calling Spain figuratively hell.

The crime cited here is a violation of Spain’s hate speech law. But that makes no sense. Hate speech laws are supposed to protect underprivileged groups who are often targets of derogatory comments. They’re not supposed to protect the powerful from the underprivileged. The anomalies of hate speech law enforcement are the times they’re actually used the way they should be. (Not that they’re good ideas in the first place, but for the sake of argument…) Shutting down dissenters and critics of the government is the status quo.]

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TWO COMMENTS (not all) :

Jordan Chandler, 25 Jan 2018 @ 10:49am

What’s next?

Spanish Inquisition 2: Electric Boogaloo

And then Kick the Jews Out 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Isabella_(sculpture)

Hey let’s build some more statues to Dictators!

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btr1701 (profile), 25 Jan 2018 @ 11:11am

> Hate speech laws are supposed to protect underprivileged

> groups who are often targets of derogatory comments

Which is itself authoritarian and horrible. Even when used properly ‘hate speech’ laws are incompatible with a free society, which is why the US thankfully does not recognize a ‘hate speech’ exception to the 1st Amendment, despite all the governors and legislators that pretend that there is one.

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SECOND ARTICLE :

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151020/19194932582/hate-speech-laws-are-just-another-way-governments-to-punish-people-they-dont-like.shtml

‘Hate Speech’ Laws Are Just Another Way

For Governments

To Punish People

They Don’t Like

from the adding-more-tiers-to-the-‘equitable’-justice-system dept

Free Speech

by Tim Cushing

Wed, Oct 28th 2015 6:22am

Two recent legislative efforts have been mounted to add police to the rolls of “disadvantaged” citizens in need of the additional shelter of “hate crime” laws. Hate crime laws are immediately problematic. They add additional punishments to criminal acts already punishable under existing laws. It’s exactly the sort of thing justice isn’t meant to be: vindictive. A murder is a murder, whether or not it was propelled by someone’s underlying biases. A threat is a threat, no matter the threatener’s personal views on race, marriage or human sexuality. Adding additional punishments solely because of a perceived motive serves no purpose other than to make those who support these laws feel like past racial/sexual wrongs are slowly being righted. The sinners of the present pay for the sins of the past sinners.

Adding police officers to this mix is not just stupid and completely antithetical to the underlying rationale of “hate crime” laws. It’s also incredibly dangerous. Elizabeth Nolan Brown of Reason takes a look at how hate crime laws are being deployed in other countries. What she’s found is that hate crime laws are like any other: they’re abused most frequently by those in power and deployed inconsistently to further governments’ aims.

The agency tasked with prosecuting hate speech in Kenya is called the National Cohesion and Integration Commission (NCIC); it was formed in 2008 to address ethnic conflicts in the nation. Onyando asserts that NCIC has ignored the bulk of complaints it has received and acts “more like an arm of the ruling coalition” than an independent agency, honing in only on those who speak out against the Jubilee Alliance, a coalition established in 2013 to support the candidacy of current President Uhuru Kenyatta and Deputy President William Ruto.

In this case, the government only cares about hate speech when it’s on the receiving end of the hate. But this selective enforcement isn’t limited to non-Western governments with a history of corruption. It’s also happening in Europe.

Because “hate speech” is not narrowly defined, it’s up to those in power to decide what qualifies as hate and what doesn’t, and often that depends very much on both whom the speaker is and the sympathies of those in power. France has been accused of treating anti-Semitic sentiment with kid gloves while ignoring anti-Muslim expression. In the U.K., a British teenager was arrested after criticizing British military actions in Afghanistan.

So, selective enforcement should work out great when it’s cops who are targeted. Threats against law enforcement officers will be treated as exceptional crimes, even though they’re facially indistinguishable from threats made against non-uniformed individuals or groups.

The government in general is supportive of law enforcement, even when agencies’ track records indicate this trust is unearned. The selective application of hate crime/hate speech laws will almost always favor this particular “protected” group. “Hate crime/speech” sentence enhancements will be piled on top of existing sentence enhancements pertaining to the assault of government employees. Fines and bail amounts will increase dramatically.

In San Francisco, for instance, leaders recently condemned graffiti saying “No More Chinese” as hate speech. The suspected spray painter was charged with 13 crimes, including felony vandalism with a felony hate crime enhancement. “We’re exposing a man to somewhere around six years of jail time for spray painting,” said public defender Yali Corea-Levy. And while bail for felony vandalism is normally set around $25,000, the suspect’s bail awas set at $155,000. Similar outrage has not been summoned in San Fran for street art advocating the killing of hipsters or urging “techie scum” to die.

Our own government has already indicated a willingness to punish speech that “attacks” the home team. It won’t take much to persuade it to use its power against those who take aim — verbally or physically — at law enforcement professionals. These new rights won’t be equally granted. They will be used almost exclusively to ensure groups with considerable amounts of power and protection are given just a little more.

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SOME COMMENTS

Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 6:37am

Weak argument

Laws Are Just Another Way For Governments To Punish People They Don’t Like

You could use the above headline and make the same exact arguments.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 8:58am

Re: Weak argument

Yes, you are correct but still a valid argument.

The very idea of all it all is for people to remain vigilant which is completely not happening.

All laws are nothing more than people with power establishing what they do not like, this will never be different at any other time or any other place.

You can concoct all manor of blame or excuses like “separation of church and state” to try to block something you don’t like in a law… but the reality is this. If enough people in power want you marginalized or marching to their orders… you either march or you fight back.

The idea that all religion is bad only creates a cover for the real evil… humanity and it contrived institutions… some do manage to do some good, but when they become trusted… that is moment corruption has become its core and it will be slowly eaten away. Hate Speech is the same… an idea of corruption that breeds and props corruption up. A construct of sheep that live in fear and weakness.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 1:46pm

Re: Weak argument

This is factually incorrect.

Before we had laws and separation of powers, governments were absolutely free to destroy any citizen they disliked.

Laws are a way to -PREVENT- the government from simply punishing who they dislike, specifically defining what kinds of behaviors are punishable, and guaranteeing that everything not listed is ok.

Vaguely worded, subjective, overly broad laws, are a way for governments to punish people they don’t like.

It’s why we oppose them.

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ChrisB (profile), 28 Oct 2015 @ 11:35am

Re: Re: sorry, but no

Hate crimes are simply normal crimes with hate speech thrown in. For example, assaulting someone vs. assaulting someone while yelling “I hate whites”. Should be the same punishment.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 7:08am

Re:

I never understood the whole hate crime thing either. Its just one of those laws passed to calm the ‘ethnic’ groups from rebelling too much.

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Don’t worry blacks,

we’ve passed laws to protect you,

now you can go back to living

in poverty

and unequal opportunity.

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Wendy Cockcroft, 29 Oct 2015 @ 3:32am

Re: Re:

It is an attempt to legislate morality

and as Kennedy said, you can’t.

Mean people are mean and putting limits on the words they can use

or the symbols they are allowed to display in public will NOT make that go away.

You can’t solve an “inside” problem from the outside, people.

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John Fenderson (profile), 29 Oct 2015 @ 7:51am

Re: Re: Re: Re:

“Should people be allowed to promote or defend that?”

As awful as it is, yes, people should be allowed to promote or defend it.

Expressing your opinion should never be against the law,

no matter how objectionable that opinion is.

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aglynn (profile), 29 Oct 2015 @ 7:11am

Re: Re: Re: Re:

Never mind Mao, or Truman for that matter.

Mao alone was responsible for a larger genocide than all religious conflicts in history combined.

And he justified it specifically in the name of atheism.

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Anonymous Coward, 28 Oct 2015 @ 8:01am

Here is a thought

How about protecting everyone against hate crime?

Governments tend to be the worst discriminators.

Try practicing what you preach.

But common sense doesn’t get votes, does it?

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Richard (profile), 29 Oct 2015 @ 7:07am

Re: Hate Crime Laws

Hate crime laws are meant to protect those still on the wrong side of violent systemic discrimination. For that purpose they are valid.

No they are not. Ordinary laws, properly applied, will do that just fine. Hate crime laws simply give an unfair advantage to those who, whilst nominally belonging to the disadvantaged group, are in fact wealthy and powerful.

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THIRD ARTICLE :

Proposed Spanish Law Would Make Online Calls For Street Demonstrations, And Circulating Riot Images, Illegal

from the who-needs-militarized-police-to-muzzle-dissent? dept

Free Speech

by Glyn Moody

Tue, Dec 16th 2014 9:34am

Proposed Spanish Law Would Make Online Calls For Street Demonstrations, And Circulating Riot Images, Illegal

from the who-needs-militarized-police-to-muzzle-dissent? dept

Techdirt has been highlighting the growing problem of police militarization in the US for a while, and its huge impact on basic rights like free speech. But over in Spain, the government has taken a rather different approach to muzzling dissent. Rather than turning the police into a militia that can stop demonstrations through the use of overwhelming force, it’s aiming to bring in a new law that makes organizing and taking part in protests — both on the streets, and online — almost impossible. Here’s Global Voices’ summary of what the new “Protection of Public Safety Bill” currently proposes:

It is against the law to participate in a demonstration before a state institution without sending prior notification to the relevant government office.

Disobedience or resistance to authorities; refusing to identify oneself; and giving false or inaccurate information given to state security agents are all prohibited.

“Insulting, harassing, threatening, or coercing” members of the Security Forces will constitute a serious offense.

But in addition to these general measures, there are some aimed specifically at ending the use of the Internet to organize protests:

Those who call for demonstrations through the Internet, social networks, or another other means may also be penalized for having committed a very serious offense.

The circulation of riot images during demonstrations can also constitute a very serious offense, punishable by 600,000€.

Circulating information on the Internet that is understood to be an attack on an individual’s privacy or that of a person’s family, or that contributes to disrupting an operation, will be punished equally with fines up to 600,000€.

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The chilling effect that those last three will have on protests is clear. People will be reluctant to express any view that might be interpreted as calling for a demonstration, however vague. Forbidding riot images from being posted will, of course, mean that images of any police brutality against demonstrators are less likely to be circulated widely, removing one of the few brakes on violent police responses. And the last one concerning an “attack on privacy” is so vague that any mention of an individual might well be caught by it. In addition, anyone “insulting” Spain, its symbols or emblems, may be punished with up to a year’s imprisonment.

Despite pressure from the public and opposition politicians, the legislation has been passed by the Spanish Congress, and now goes to the Senate for final approval. That means the only thing likely to halt it is an appeal to Spain’s Constitutional Court. What’s worrying here is the very clear intent to bring in a law that makes the online organization and coverage of peaceful protests difficult or even impossible — something that many other governments would doubtlessly love to achieve, and may well even be encouraged to attempt if Spain goes ahead with this awful proposal.

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SOME COMMENTS

Nom du Clavier (profile), 16 Dec 2014 @ 8:22am

The circulation of riot images during demonstrations can also constitute a very serious offense, punishable by 600,000€.

Just publish them in Australia, it’s already the day after the demonstration there.

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Ninja (profile), 16 Dec 2014 @ 9:39am

Considering what they did in the news snippets and links case it’s not surprising that they are moving bad laws forward.

The conspiracy nut in me says the news move was intended to make it harder for the newspapers and this will be another nail in the coffin.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 9:44am

Dear Citizens…

We are removing more of your liberties.

~All Current Governments

There is currently no nation that stands for Liberty at this time.

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tqk (profile), 17 Dec 2014 @ 12:20pm

Re: Re: Dear Citizens…

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.

Seems he had it right

Easy answer: Who’s boot? Who’s face?

There’s enough anger extant out here that they should be worried, perhaps even afraid, for their lives. “The peasants are revolting!” Yeah, and they’re sharpening the guillotines.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 9:49am

and this is why the various governments are utilising what ever data gathering and surveillance they can!

it hasn’t and never has had anything to do with terrorists or terrorism, it has always been about trying to keep ahead of the people when we want to kick off like we did over ACTA.

if there are laws in place that prohibit any sort of demonstration, protest and any informing to others about protests, the security forces can get to the designated meeting places in time to stop things before they start

and the people can be arrested and banged up for doing the slightest of things !!.

the even bigger problem is that

if we are not careful,

the Planet is going to become one massive dictatorship

with individual leaders

and we will all become servants !

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Baron von Robber, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:11am

Franco is back in power ? =b

Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 1:20pm

Re: Catalonia should split while there’s still time.

Ultimately that is probably the main thing this law is meant to quell. That and the expected demonstrations starting when the next wave of economic cuts hit.

Spain, Italy and Greece are all turning bad in different ways:

– Spain is turning to oldschool repressive measures.

– Italy is turning towards their government instability and the massive corruption they know so well in politics. Especially after the new way to calculate economy.

– Greece is turning towards the most brutal fascist group in Europe at the moment (Golden Dawn) versus an activistic denialist coalition (Syriza).

Ireland and Portugal are the only countries who truely have left the PIIGS. Italy is on the fence towards recovering, Greece can at least see light at the end of the tunnel, while Spain still looks at a long darkness even if things are improving from horrible towards bad.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:26am

The government has watched the Arab spring, and are scared shitless. Modern communications allows people to self organize, without any real leaders, and that can be almost impossible for governments to deal with. So they think they had better take steps now to prevent that happening, little realizing that they are making a popular uprising more likely by doing so.

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Socrates, 16 Dec 2014 @ 3:02pm

A western spring might spring into action

Spain use might against the populace because might might be used against the privileged.

Sadly, the US and the rest of Europe also force the issue. Arming the police for massacres and occupation, dressing police officers as demonstrators and smashing windows, jamming of cell phones, erasing evidence, and making loyal mass medias utterly untrustworthy. And so on.

I assume crowd control is the motivation. Crowd as in the population.

This has gone wrong before.

Has they learned nothing from history?

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:35am

How does this tie in with the freedom of expression and freedom of assembly from the European Convention on Human Rights?

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 10:36am

Once again, another govenment must learn…

…that

those who make peaceful revolution impossible

make violent revolution inevitable.

Brendan O’Neill – hate speech laws & censorship make people stupid

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That One Guy (profile), 16 Dec 2014 @ 2:35pm

Re:

Oh they continue to be a representative government, it’s just they’re not representing the citizens at large, but only a small percentage of them.

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Anonymous Coward, 16 Dec 2014 @ 6:02pm

When a government is no longer willing to listen to it’s people. Why would people continue to bestow such a government with consent and authority?

The obvious answer is because the Spanish thug department will use physical violence against those attempting to undermine the government’s authority.

My answer is undermine their authority in little ways during your every day life.

Death by a thousand cuts.

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Anonymous Coward, 17 Dec 2014 @ 2:04am

Psssh Span is a dead country anyway.

All prepped to be kicked out of the Euro in June 2015…riots everywhere, fascist draconian laws in place.

Judges bought off with foreign currency, and a government that openly murders anyone that looks like they might be a political challenge.

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here we go again, 17 Dec 2014 @ 4:37pm

So, it’s not law yet…

That means it’s still legal to call for action now…

I hereby call for political protests and sharing of pictures taken at said protests by the good citizens of Spain.

If this crap becomes law then ignore it.

Continue to dissent and protest.

If the government continues to oppress then revolt any way you can.

To the rest of the world, it’s time to South Park this thing; Catman-bra style…

Somebody make a trendy hashtag and let’s get some shirts printed, stat!

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GEMont (profile), 19 Dec 2014 @ 12:58pm

Give those folks a bigger shovel, please!

Damn.

I’d swear Spain must have gotten itself a truly christian government,

because they certainly do apperar to be hell bent on taking their entire country to the “other side” as fast as possible.

Is there a word for national insanity??

How about national suicide??

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From General De GAULLE : – “German hate speech law is the FUTURE of Europe : – first in Germany, then in Italy, Spain, Great Britain and France ! Would you believe ! Surprise, surprise ! Or dialogue at european summit ? If all the Republicans and french President, Laurent WAUQUIEZ, don’t combat Internet State censorship, your political opponents are going to everything possible to destabilize us, to make us lose the elections. YOU KNOW THAT !?! »

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Image chosen by the General De GAULLE himself

You must inform you of what happens in the world.

Corrupted governments are afraid of american and european peoples.

So they are ready to do whatever it takes to cling to power, and that includes attacking the Nations

and their legitimate, democratically elected representatives if they join a political party of the opposite side, the Republicans in France.

You should be informed of such changes immediately.

Hate crimes are « gross » exaggeration and even pure and simple invention !

[German pronounciation by a General fighting against Nazi regime]

A crime is to hurt and kill somebody, not to speak to him.

It looks like as if all european politicians went crazy.

Hate crime is to have been accused of “gross” exaggeration and even pure and simple invention.

So where is the CRIME ?

The crime is to be too silly to understand what you see, hear and read !

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How can you accept to be treated like that ?

  • Like if you are not a clever and educated person but a stupid dunce !

Intellectuel sterilization, censorship, will make you, men, dull and stupid, like castrated chickens.

Because european dictators want that their values and their ways of living are UNIVERSAL, the correct ones for all people.

So, for them, the “others” are just too stupid to understand this « obvious fact » :

– « They are the BEST ! »

Officials and other servants and the Union federal’s structures that are involved in European integration Dare not deceived by medias, in conjunction with the established governments :

Republicans today are regarded as a threat to the disgraceful objectives of the conquest of power by the “foul beast” that is always revealed too late.

The time has come to RESIST and to REFUSE these socialist laws !

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Second, it was the execution of that broken promise, to protect the french population, by the interior minister who was absolutely incompetent.

The REAL risk is TERRORISM, ACTS OF TERRORISM,

  • not speaking or writing in a blog or in a media. 

Everywhere in the world, speaking, listening, writing and reading help to shape communities over time if they accept to debate.

If there is little to debate, it’s because you are under the thumb of a horrible and zealot dictatorship !

Why to give the opportunity to choose freedom  to people under religious dictatorship if it is not strategic interest for humanity ?

Do you prefer WAR, physical war than theoretical war ?

I am sure that NATO PREFER WAR,

  • NUCLEAR WAR IN EUROPE !

  • No doubt !
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And I ACCUSE your presidents of false democratic Republics TO WANT TO PROVOKE the WAR in EUROPE by increasing censorship.

  • Or is it INCOMPETENCE ?

And to be INCOMPETENT is a political CRIME in times of WAR.

Nowadays we often hear the claim that the world is at your fingertips :

  • one click and you have access to the whole world.

What’s the matter with free speech ?

– Are you wimps or cowards to be afraid to see or hear what you don’t like ?

– Are you adults, political independant people, not serves or slaves ?

Or are you children, scared by the possibility that their « parents »,

  • your states,

  • your governments,

could be monitoring what they say ?

On the occasion of this prestigious event,

  • the censorship against this so little blog  « Dèu vos guard »,

  • my words against their weapons of war,

I have asked Véronique HURTADO to provide some informations about commercial operations called « hate speech law » in this fascinating part of the world, Europe,

  • the craddle of Western civilization and ancient Greece, motherland of the Republic

  • against tyrannical regime like NAZI Regime, a german regime.

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– Please, young lady,

[This is a joke between the General and me]

  • would you copy on this page the selected articles on the topic and some interesting comments that will help enlighten the debate ?

Thank you !

[How can you say “No” to the General De GAULLE when he is speaking to you ?]

– Yes, General !

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FIRST ARTICLE

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180102/14194238913/german-hate-speech-law-goes-into-effect-turning-social-media-platforms-into-govt-revenue-generators.shtml

[German Hate Speech Law Goes Into Effect, Turning Social Media Platforms Into Gov’t Revenue Generators

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from the gentlemen:-start-your-paperwork dept

Social media platforms doing business in Germany can look forward to a year filled with fines of up to €50m. Germany’s hate speech law went into effect on January 1st, providing the country with a new revenue stream it can tap into for the rest of whatever.

The Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz (NetzDG) law was passed at the end of June 2017 and came into force in early October.

The social networks were given until the end of 2017 to prepare themselves for the arrival of NetzDG.

The law gives social media platforms 24 hours to remove “obviously illegal” content. This, of course, raises the question about how obvious “obviously illegal” content needs to be to trigger the 24-hour deletion requirement. Presumably, the government gets to decide how “obvious” the illegality is and how often it gets to collect millions of euros.

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In what must be considered a show of government largesse, one week will be allowed to handle “complex” removal orders — again, something likely determined solely by the German government. Given Germany’s ultra-weird relationship with its Nazi past, the difference between complex and simple takedown demands isn’t likely to be clear cut, putting companies in the path of fines and further German government grousing.

I understand that American companies are somewhat obliged to follow local laws when providing services overseas, but they should not be put in the position of being held criminally and civilly liable for the posts of their users. They can attempt to moderate content with an eye on local statutes, but the fines for posting “obviously illegal” content should be levied on the person posting it, rather than the service provider.

This ridiculous shifting of liability is even more egregious in Germany. Not only are service providers fined for not removing illegal content, EMPLOYEES of these companies can be directly fined as well.

[T]he law also provides for fines of up to €5m for the person each company designates to deal with the complaints procedure if it doesn’t meet requirements.

We often see government officials claiming the billions of dollars in profits Google, Facebook, et al rack up somehow should result in perfect compliance with every esoteric, content-related complaint worldwide. But no one’s claimed individual employees tasked with government compliance are callous billionaires, and yet the German hate speech law makes that equation with its willingness to bankrupt individuals for not responding to government removal demands fast enough.

There are concerns in Germany this law could lead to government censorship and a restriction of free speech. These concerns have already materialized somewhat indirectly. A regime with an interest in censorship and curtailing criticism has already pushed out a carbon-copy of Germany’s law. This gives Russia the opportunity to push companies into performing censorship on its behalf, with Germany to point at when critics start questioning Russia’s actions. ]

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Some sensible comments :

[Anonymous Coward, 3 Jan 2018 @ 10:00am

What if one of the Hate Speech SS-Obersturmführer leaders posts hate speech from an official account?

The official account will be fined, but in summarizing the hate speech will itself commit hate speech and be fined.

This becomes an endless circle until the Government starts putting yellow stars on Youtubers and rounding them up into special “video re-education” camps. ]

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[ Anonymous Coward, 3 Jan 2018 @ 10:01am

Uberfuhere Merkel, we have simplified the process of “complex takedowns”.

How?

We simply takedown the original poster using a rifle. ]

 

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SECOND ARTICLE

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180105/15544738943/it-took-only-three-days-germanys-new-hate-speech-law-to-cause-collateral-damage.shtml

It Took Only Three Days For Germany’s New Hate Speech Law To Cause Collateral Damage

from the carpet-bombing,-but-for-speech dept

[ Germany’s new hate speech law just went into effect at the beginning of the year and it’s already paying off. But not in the way German government officials expected, nor in the way anyone who isn’t in the German government wanted it to.

The law is a bad one: it criminalizes certain speech, which is already problematic. The problems go much deeper than that, though. Instead of targeting German citizens who post illegal speech, the government targets American social media platforms, demanding the removal of illegal posts in less than 24 hours on the pain of up to €50m fines. On top of that, employees of service providers tasked with removals can also be fined €5m personally for not reacting fast enough to government demands.

So, it’s bad. And determining what is or isn’t illegal is in the eyes of government beholders. Faced with the prospect of expensive fines, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are probably not going to be second-guessing many government requests for content deletion. Worse, it’s going to encourage service providers to be proactive, amplifying the underlying vagueness of the German “hate speech” law. False positives are a given. We just didn’t expect the collateral damage to occur so quickly.

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A German satirical magazine’s Twitter account was blocked after it parodied anti-Muslim comments, the publication said on Wednesday, in what the national journalists association said showed the downside of a new law against online hate speech.

Titanic magazine was mocking Beatrix von Storch, a member of the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, who accused police of trying “to appease the barbaric, Muslim, rapist hordes of men” by putting out a tweet in Arabic.

Twitter briefly suspended her account and prosecutors are examining if her comments amount to incitement to hatred.

Titanic magazine published its send-up late on Tuesday, in a tweet purporting to be from von Storch to the police, saying: “The last thing that I want is mollified barbarian, Muslim, gang-raping hordes of men.”

This was exactly what journalists (and satirists) were warning against as the hate speech law was being pushed through the legislature: collateral damage. Not only could the law potentially do harm to journalism, it was perfectly capable of damaging other forms of speech, like satire.

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The magazine’s writers are shocked at this turn of events. They likely didn’t expect an American social media company to be making judgment calls on speech ahead of German censors. Prosecutors are “examining” the politician’s comments for possible illegality, but no one seems too eager to explain why Twitter nuked a satirical account as well. The Titanic’s publishers say Chancellor Merkel herself promised writers the law wouldn’t have this effect. But here we are, observing this exact effect in motion — one completely expected by everyone asking their representatives for a better, more narrowly-crafted law.

Laws regulating speech need light touches and deft craftsmanship. They rarely, if ever, get them. Germany’s new speech law didn’t even make it a week before it started taking out innocent bystanders. And the law’s just getting started. ]

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Some sensible comments :

Anonymous Coward, 8 Jan 2018 @ 9:16am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

[I am interested to know how my ‘what about-isms’ take place outside the public square, or are irrelevant to social media.

Films, comics, cartoons, discussions, all of these things are incredibly relevant on social media. Embedding, tweeting, retweeting, sharing, posting… every example I gave finds its way onto social media. This is without pointing out that I only gave examples of things that ARE public, whether online or not.

Not to mention, if you think that this law going unchallenged, these cases punishing satire setting precedent allowed to stay on the books won’t be used to gradually ratchet up enforcement in other venues you have not paid much attention to how laws grow and propagate.

‘Well we punish satire on social media, but these vile people still spread their could-be-taken-out-of-context-filth in movies. In comedy clubs. In newspapers. We already stamp it out in social media, it only makes sense we stamp it out elsewhere.’

It’s an easy grand-standing soap-box for a politician to use to get into office, or try to bolster their public image, or just to lash out because they are incapable of understanding context.

I respect that we may disagree on this matter, but I have seen all of this before, and I fear I will see it again and again throughout my lifetime. I really don’t want to end up in a world where making fun of some hateful asshole gets me treated the same as that hateful asshole just because other hateful assholes can’t understand they are being mocked or spoken out against. ]

 

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Thad, 8 Jan 2018 @ 2:15pm

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

[ I would argue that context (satire / not satire) is irrelevant in this situation. It is entirely subjective

I can’t speak to German law, but in the US there are well-established legal guidelines for identifying satire. I see you’re a fan of Popehat; here are some posts there that might help:

Satire Is Satire Even When People Fall For It, Mr. Jarvis

Satire vs. Potentially Defamatory Factual Statements: An Illustration

The First Amendment Protects Satire Even When Reckless, Stupid, Or Ideology-Addled People Fall For It

D.C. Circuit: First Amendment Trumps Birthers, Stupid People, Walruses]

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Richard (profile), 8 Jan 2018 @ 11:24am

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[Ok I’ll be more direct.

Governments aren’t really interested in avoiding hurting people’s feelings. They are interested in getting re-elected (or maintaining power by more direct and forceful ways).

Generally this means maintaining a narrative in the public square. Usually this involves making the public believe a lie.

For example the North Korea is desperate to maintain the illusion that its people are actually better off than those in the South.

Something similar is true for all totalitarian governments but also for governments in democratic countries, although in the latter case the mechanism are usually more subtle.

For example Margaret Thatcher and John Major stayed in power for 18 years with the lie “there is no alternative” – propagated by the Murdoch press in the UK.

All governments are prepared to kill or allow people to be killed in order to maintain power. Do you really think this law is about not allowing people’s feelings to be hurt?

No, all censorship is always about protecting a lie that the government needs to protect.

In this case the first half of the lie is that there are no negative consequences to Merkel’s policy of allowing huge numbers of mostly muslim migrants to enter the country.

The second half is that anybody who questions the policy is automatically a neo-nazi extremist. The second half of the lie is most important since it almost guarantees that only genuine neo-nazi extremists will dare to speak out. They then become easy fodder for the law.

The fact that large numbers of Germans voted for AfD in spite of this has provoked this law – because Merkel is scared that the people have stopped believing her lies. ]

 

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Richard (profile), 8 Jan 2018 @ 11:24am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

[Ok I’ll be more direct.

Governments aren’t really interested in avoiding hurting people’s feelings. They are interested in getting re-elected (or maintaining power by more direct and forceful ways).

Generally this means maintaining a narrative in the public square. Usually this involves making the public believe a lie.

For example the North Korea is desperate to maintain the illusion that its people are actually better off than those in the South.

Something similar is true for all totalitarian governments but also for governments in democratic countries, although in the latter case the mechanism are usually more subtle.

For example Margaret Thatcher and John Major stayed in power for 18 years with the lie “there is no alternative” – propagated by the Murdoch press in the UK.

All governments are prepared to kill or allow people to be killed in order to maintain power. Do you really think this law is about not allowing people’s feelings to be hurt ?

No, all censorship is always about protecting a lie that the government needs to protect.

In this case the first half of the lie is that there are no negative consequences to Merkel’s policy of allowing huge numbers of mostly muslim migrants to enter the country.

 

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The second half is that anybody who questions the policy is automatically a neo-nazi extremist. The second half of the lie is most important since it almost guarantees that only genuine neo-nazi extremists will dare to speak out. They then become easy fodder for the law.

The fact that large numbers of Germans voted for AfD in spite of this has provoked this law – because Merkel is scared that the people have stopped believing her lies.]

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Ryunosuke (profile), 8 Jan 2018 @ 11:08am

[so… the only way for Germany to combat Nazi-ism online… is to institute Nazi-like policies to the internet…. did I miss something ?]

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Anonymous Coward, 8 Jan 2018 @ 11:16am

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[so… the only way for Germany to combat Nazi-ism online… is to institute Nazi-like policies to the internet…. did I miss something?

I think they call it “fighting fire with fire”. Others might call it “throwing gasoline on the fire”. Either way it’s an arsonist’s dream.]

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THIRD ARTICLE

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180111/15543538989/second-time-week-german-hate-speech-laws-results-deletion-innocent-speech.shtml

For The Second Time In A Week, German Hate Speech Laws Results In Deletion Of Innocent Speech

from the hate-speech-law-takes-on-law-of-unintended-consequences;-loses-immediately dept

[It’s going to be a fun few months for German government officials as they run from one embarrassing fire to the next, hoping to keep their newly-minted “hate speech” law from being scrapped for sheer ineptitude.

The law went live January 1st, promising hefty fines for social media companies if they don’t remove poorly-defined “hate speech” fast enough. This has resulted in exactly the sort of side effects the law’s critics promised. The only remarkable thing is how fast the side effects have presented themselves.

Within 72 hours of the law’s debut, a satirical post mocking a German’s politician’s bigoted words was deleted by Twitter in an apparently proactive move. The 24-hour window for content removal is backed by €50m fines for each violation. Given the amount of money on the line, it’s no surprise social media companies are trying to stay ahead of Germany’s government when it comes to regulating speech. It’s also no surprise Twitter, et al are relying heavily on users to help narrow down which questionable posts it should be looking at.

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You can already see where this is headed. For the second time in less than a week, Twitter has pulled the trigger on an innocent tweet. And, again, the entity whose tweet has been deleted is big enough to attract the attention of German lawmakers.

Germany signalled on Monday it was open to amending a controversial law combatting online hate speech as the justice minister fell victim to the rules he himself championed.

The move came after Twitter deleted a post by Heiko Maas dating back to 2010 before he was appointed justice minister, in which he called a fellow politician “an idiot”.

The post was deleted after Twitter received several complaints, fuelling a simmering row over the new regulation which critics say stifle freedom of speech.

Proponents of laws targeting speech tend to believe the law will operate in a pristine vacuum where only the purest of intentions will be honored. Anyone operating outside of this mindset knows exactly how speech-targeting laws work in real life: exactly like this, where an internet dogpile resulted in the deletion of a tweet that didn’t even meet the expansive definitions of hate speech handed down by the German government.

As a result of multiple, high-profile false positives, many German politicians are now complaining about the law and demanding it be altered or struck down. But even with political sentiment swiftly turning against the just-enacted law, the German government will apparently take a wait-and-see approach to touching up the law.

Government spokesman Steffen Seibert said an evaluation would be carried out within six months to examine how well the new law was working.

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The way things are going, it’s doubtful the law will make it six weeks before being clawed back for a rewrite.]

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Some sensible comments :

aerinai (profile), 12 Jan 2018 @ 8:35am

[Best learning tool ever

In some ways I’m happy that this law passed. It will be used as a case study for all future administrations and freedom-of-speech advocates on what NOT to do. Too many times these laws never make it this far (for good reason) and all pundits have are hypothetical harms, which are easy to ignore. Harder to ignore something like this… silver linings and all…

Too much to hope that this will help stop SESTA here in the States ?]

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Sharur (profile), 12 Jan 2018 @ 9:58am

[Re: It was Twitter which “didn’t even meet the expansive definitions of hate speech”.

But the law puts the onus on Twitt[er, et al, to remove content, within 24hrs of posting, not governmental complaint. It also, incorrectly, in my opinion, targets not only companies, are able to afford to fight this in court, but also individual employees, which cannot. It is, in my opinion, a bad law, simply on the merits of its fine structure and lack of due process; and in the words of Abraham Lincon: “The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.” Strict enforcement of this law is showing its true colors.]

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The General De GAULLE says about german hate speech law   :

  • « One word is enough :

– Ridiculous ! »

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