As announced it by the Lord on April 10, 2018, by prophecy posted on this blog “Déu vos guard”, the first signs of God’s wrath were observed : under floods, heavy rains drenched subway in New York City on April 16, 2018. Last but not least, the same day, Islamic State threatens to bomb NYC subway in chilling poster. Bring the conflict in Syria to the end, Donald TRUMP ! STOP this WAR.

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If these data are not persuasive enough for you, even if the first signs occur, allow me to mention one more example of a major accident with an innocent victim. Surprisingly and unfortynately it was learned, that, on April 17, 2018, there was one casualty, one dead in Southwest Airlines flight from New York City to Dallas due to emergency landing in Philadelphia.

The Wrath of God descended on the Tower of new Babel, New York.

And this is just the beginning.

  • You betrayed your own nation, Donald TRUMP,

  • and you murdered Me, Jesus, to forge a coalition with the ennemies of christian people, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Politicians need to demonstrate responsibility.

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Making alliances with these two countries who want to dominate the world and submit or destroy christian nations will necessarily have harmful consequences.

The man who signed these arms contracts with Saudi Arabia did so in alliance with the Devil and went to the stake for it.

I know there is money at stake and you know, you think that USA will go anyway.

But a statesman should not accept bribes.

For dogs it also helps to give them bones.

Prince Mohammed BEN SALMANE thinks that occidental leaders are like dogs.

Optimally “watchdogs” for his theocracy

  • but basically “dogs of Christians”, insulting them

  • because occidental politicians beg at all daytime hours.

I tell you :

– “You relaunched the war against Syria to please Saudi Arabia.”

Saudi Arabia claimed to have paid french politicians several millions US $ bribes for initially launching World War III against Syria.

  • And not only french politicians !


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Saudi Prince, Mohammed BEN SALMANE, wants to use you to start a war against Iran.

He just needed to start a war.

  • Donald TRUMP, are you trying to start a war ?

Now Saudi Prince talked about training and getting a multinational military force together to go in and address some of the issues on the ground in Syria.

You would have advised your people who have elected you that you would be going to start a war against Syria, BEFORE YOUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, not after to have been elected as President of USA.

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  • Remember, Donald TRUMP ! Are you a liar ?

Lord says :

  • “Mohammed BEN SALMANE asked you to withdraw a charge against Saudi Arabia and not dragging out the proceedings forever.

In exchange he has paid some of your presidential and significant personal expenses.

You agreed to achieve specified outcomes, like war in Syria, for which you have received saudi payments like a servant.

In return you must obtain Russia’s withdrawal from the race if you win.

That is the NO democratic deal, but the DEMONIC deal, with Saudi Arabia.”

– “Do you really think you are worth it ? No.” says our Lord.

“Saudi Arabia was trying to islamize and arabize all christian countries.

  • It’s so easy with bribes !


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In an occidental world where the governments run on bribes and connections, Saudi or Qatari Prince can get a lot done with a nice suit and a bag of cash.

Truly, there is no more Christian man in the whole of the Western World.

  • What threats and what pressure have persuaded several hundred European decision-makers, presidents, ministers, commissioners to support a war without a United Nations resolution ?

But american voters are making a political judgment of your choice to support too a war without a United Nations resolution, causing a schism within your constituents.

It goes against all logic and intuitive common sense and in no way serves the interests of your electorate.

It was waging an unequal war with the most modern weaponry against a civilian population defending its inalienable right to self-determination which is a sacred political right.

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  • “”#Name and shame”, political activists said, add the Lord. But you’re silent  about this scandal.
  • Shame on you !“#Instead of honouring your obligations to your people, finally, you, Donald TRUMP, the President of the USA, have imitated the Bush Administration which had launched an unwarranted and illegal war against Iraq, a sovereign state, and toppling its Hussein regime.
  • American failure that fails your troops, fails the people of Syria and fails the people of your country.


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Because of Donald TRUMP, this is the first attack on a sovereign state that stands accused of vile behaviour not to its neighbours but to its own people.

American voters are discouraged, recalling with emotion that the new head of United States of America would keep his promises concerning international policy and personal freedoms.

The Lord already had announced it to them and strengthened them with His word, to resist those tests.

  • But you, Donald TRUMP, are not different than George BUSH, Bill CLINTON and Barack OBAMA are !

You’re no different from the others.

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No hope for american people who would play a defensive role when it comes to defending the idea of a better world with a more human system.

Human Rights is a christian social policy, never forget that !

  • Do you know how to read your life, your life story, Donald TRUMP in the future, your future ?

This is a whole book’s worth – the story of a lifetime, isn’t it ?

  • Your life, it’s all about a life lived on the surface.

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  • France will be Lebanon, never forget that ! Europe wants to buy the reception of migrants for european nations !
  • Because  with money you can buy every thing even your souls.
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  • Nothing for your people and nothing for migrants ! Everything is illusion to make more and more money from innocent penniless people.

Now this is My prophecy cited in an article posted on April 10, 2018 written in french language

  • addressed also to Emmanuel MACRON, the french President of the Rich, who wants to build the “Tower of Babel” for the mundialist oligarchy
  • and to you, the american president called “Dr STRANGELOVE” by all your planet :


“Jour du Seigneur”, le dimanche 8 avril 2018, jour de colère du Seigneur ! Sa colère dure et perdure. Elle est si forte que… ça “craint” aussi pour moi si je ne l’écris pas. Mais pourquoi cette colère ? ZAD, Syrie et hypocrisie religieuse.

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Il y a quelqu’un sur terre qui a pris une DECISION complètement, absolument DEBILE.

Mais que la décision soit débile n’est pas suffisant en soi pour provoquer la colère du Seigneur, étant donné le nombre de fois où des dirigeants sur cette terre prennent des décisions DEBILES.

Il faut rajouter un second trait caractéristique qui provoque généralement la COLERE du Seigneur.

La nature de la décision prise est DANGEREUSE, c’est à dire NUISIBLE pour l’espèce humaine.

  • Ou pour les Chrétiens, Son peuple, c’est à dire vous, si vous en faites partie.


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Je crains que la DECISION d’ATTAQUER la Syrie, décision prise par le caniche français, Emmanuel MACRON, sous l’autorité du dogue américain, Donald TRUMP,

  • comme autrefois un autre caniche français, Nicolas SARKOZY, avait décidé d’attaquer la Lybie pour plaire au dogue américain, dominé et manipulé par l’OTAN,

  • un dogue nommé Barack OBAMA, un dogue “castré”, lui, Président des Etats-Unis,

  • qui s’était soumis au désir castrateur d’une Secrétaire d’Etat, Hillary CLINTON,

en mâle” de vouloir et de pouvoir prouver sa future stature présidentielle,

je crains que la DECISION d’ATTAQUER la Syrie ne soit la première cause de l’orage DIVIN qui se prépare.

Le Seigneur DENONCE ces stratagèmes et les effets d’annonce qui suivent les visites rendues par Mohammed BEN SALMANE, le Prince Héritier saoudien, aux différents chefs d’Etat occidentaux.

Le Seigneur “ne croit pas” au “hasard”, au “dieu-hasard”, Lui.

Il Lui suffit, comme à vous, de suivre les traces sanglantes de l’Arabie Saoudite et de ses alliés.


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Le Seigneur ACCUSE les chefs d’Etat français et américain de s’être laissés acheter à coups de MILLIARDS de pétrodollars par l’Arabie Saoudite et emporter

  • dans une guerre qui va TOTALEMENT DESEQUILIBRER les forces en présence au Moyen-Orient

  • causant l’ERADICATION de toute PRESENCE CHRETIENNE sur ces continents.

Sans résolution de l’ONU, vous, “petits chefs”, êtres humains infinitésimaux et méprisables, allez attaquer un pays, la Syrie, qui ne vous a pas attaqués

  • pour vous emparer de ses richesses minières

  • et plaire à votre Maître arabe, le Prince Mohammed BEN SALMANE, venu par-dessous le manteau, son burnous, négocier la mort de la Syrie pour provoquer une guerre prochaine avec l’Iran,

  • et plaire ainsi à un autre de vos Maîtres, l’Etat d’Israël !”

Le Seigneur ANNONCE aussi la fin de l’Etat d’Israël et la mort de Jérusalem

  • si ses appétits de domination ne cessent pas !


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Grande est la colère du Seigneur face à cette folie de deux hommes qui ne pourront pas se dire CHRETIENS, mais “zinzins” [excusez-moi de l’écrire ainsi !] ! et qui prétendent présider aux destinées du monde.

Deux “zozos” qui se prennent pour des “cracks” et vont entraîner les peuples dans une guerre fatale,

  • fatale pour la France CHRETIENNE

  • fatale pour Israël, l’Etat juif

  • et fatale pour les Etats-Unis, pays maçonnique qui croit pouvoir dominer le monde.

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New-York sera frappé !

Et si l’état de New-York n’est pas frappé par la main de l’homme, c’est Dieu qui le noiera sous les eaux pour symbole de cet orgueil américain qui prétend gouverner le monde,

en ayant pour seul but de s’enrichir

  • et d’enrichir des multinationales dont les “sièges” sont à New-York.


The first sign and the proof

Flash flood warning issued as heavy rains drench NYC.

[The skies have opened up over the Big Apple to thunder and unseasonal chill. A flash flood warning was issued for New York City on Monday morning as a strong storm brought down torrential rains and blustery winds. As much as 1.5 inches of rain fell across the region by about 7 a.m. and an…]
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– “Vous ne savez pas dans quel engrenage vous allez être pris !, dit le Seigneur. Vous serez prisonniers vous-mêmes de vos propres turpitudes car il sera très vite REVELE aux yeux du monde les “dessous peu glorieux” de cette prise de décision STUPIDE et HOMICIDE.

Vous serez soumis, comme aujourd’hui, au chantage crapuleux de l’Arabie Saoudite.

Vous n’avez pas le droit de vous partager le Moyen-Orient et ses peuples comme vous vous partageriez un “gâteau”, le gâteau du monde.

Ce ne sont pas vos terres, ce n’est pas le sang de votre peuple qui coulera !

Mais c’est aussi un sang CHRETIEN.

Et, pour cette raison, Je ne peux pas vous laisser VIVRE plus longtemps [sic].”

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Islamic State threatens to bomb NYC subway in chilling poster


Je le répète, le Seigneur est très en colère !

C’est la deuxième fois que le Seigneur menace d’abréger les jours de certains hommes sur terre.

Non par colère,

même si “”Sainte” est Sa colère” -,

  • mais POUR protéger les futures victimes de cette guerre qui va précipiter le monde dans une multiplicité de guerres incontrôlables !


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General De GAULLE wants you to know that, in Europe, you are going to make state censorship appear and to make satire and humour disappear. The harmful consequences of european state censorship are illustrated by the italian example. In Europe, Italy is the second country to have voted for the same « german » hate speech law without exercising its critical thinking.


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Back on January 27, 2018 on my blog, « Dèu vos guard », the General De GAULLE has given me a press article to be published online about german state censorship. Never forget that European governments have a dictatorial history of using civil defamation actions to stifle political opposition.

These governmental agreements enacting hate speech law are indicative of the extent of the European Union’s repression of its critics and political opponents. However, events have recently taken, rather unexpectedly, an unfortunate and dangerous turn.

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Hero or criminal  ? That is censorship to say it.

All dictatorships must end, including dictatorship in this Union, the European Union.

We have to break the dictatorship of this oligarchy.

YOU have to break the dictatorship of this global governance.

A great war with a worldwide scope is starting.

The prejudices and sectarianism which are encouraged under this global dictatorship have appeared and armed terrorist gangs had been pressing their political and ethnic demands for over ten years in the urban areas of your european countries.

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Nazi books burning.

Saying « NO » to dictatorship does not automatically guarantee the rule of law and democracy.

No dictatorship was ever overthrown without much sacrifice and long struggle.


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First, dictatorship itself is ugly and unacceptable.

Second, secular dictatorship excludes christian REPUBLICAN parties from participating normally in the political system.

However the concept of free speech has always held an important place in our democratic tradition.

These hate speech laws and other same bills based on german authoritarian government, the head of socialist Europe, raise serious concerns about freedom of expression and religion.

All this is because european governments want to stifle freedom of expression during coming elections.

It is not the European Union’s place with its submitted governments to its oligarchic authority

  • to restrict

  • freedom of speech

  • during elections.

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The false pretext of economic regulations strengthens the grip of oligarchic cliques in european governments,

  • weakens faith in public authority,

  • increases alienation, dissatisfaction and social troubles.

The dictatorship of the single common European market inevitably results in the dictatorship of a single regulation.

Then the dictatorship does away with the courts altogether.

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It’s not acceptable that the requirements a citizen must obey upon pain of criminal prosecution be determined by a single government official who decides what will or will not include the terms and conditions of artistic licence and free speech.

It is these public servants who review suggested redactions provided by medias or free bloggers.

The law would increase the executive authorities’ powers to control and thus to censor everything printed in newspapers, as well as other media and other published material.

The law also gives the government the right to censor and close down newspapers at will in the name of national security.

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The worst is that you have given this constitutional right of state censorship to simple merchants.

European governments stated that social networks were known as collaborators and dealers who sold rights of free speech to Internet users.

Although they may not be seized, inspected or censored without a substantiated order issued by a magistrate for a specific period,

  • proving that an interesting subject might not be taken seriously as a topic for a political debate by corrupted politicians and stupid peoples who elected them.

It seems FOR YOU that we are discussing two different things, although they are interlinked.

But you have given the illegal right to be cut out of the cyberspace by simple merchants.

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that some businesses help authorities

in repressive countries

to censor

  • and mount surveillance of the Internet,

and others turn a blind eye to the use of their equipment.

More and more governments have realised that the Internet can play a key role in the fight for

  • or against democracy

  • and they are establishing new methods of censoring it.

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But in some circumstances its democratic denial by the elected assembly would amount to the exercise of a last resort political power to censor the judiciary, and to a constitutional crisis.

The Commission may also choose to censor their report on similar grounds, after consulting with what is vaguely termed “the authorized bodies”.

Because a no-confidence decision is accepted if it has been passed by the majority of all parliamentarians, this will turn out to be an impossible mission.

Nonetheless, the overthrow of a democratically elected government by the military cannot be glossed over.

The election rigging, the graft… none of which you’re interested in.

Or maybe YOU’RE just interested in to play games and get paid for it.

You’d still rather be playing video games.

But life is not a video game.


YOUR REAL LIFE IS YOUR PRISON, stay home and play video games.

Mostly playing video games and listening to terrible top-40 pop music.

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New Global Oligarchy is the winner

  • In french, the « N.O.M. », for « Nouvel Ordre Mondial »

  • rough translation the « Name of « Mund»», it is to say :- the « New World Order ».

On one side, the king of your atheist world, with his trillions in oil wealth, the protection of the world energy oligarchy.

His most important function is to protect the criminal oligarchs from prosecution and engage in torture.

It is impossible for individual countries to confront the oligarchies that exercise power in the global arena.

Because of the rapidly spreading globalization of markets and the emergence of powerful transnational oligarchies, the normative power of States has been degenerating at an increasing pace.

But beneath all this apparent jumble of bric-a-brac :

  • lie the two key notes of the oligarchic sect that governs us,

  • namely contempt for the people and the quest for an obscure world « governance ».


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The consensus existing was that you cannot censor the media, you cannot tell them what to do.

The globalization driven by ICT

  • must not bring back the centralized autocratic or oligarchic regimes

  • which it was to be hoped, had died with the twentieth century,

  • but must be based on a free flow of ideas.

Write naturally without censoring yourself,

  • telling the truth in your own language.

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Meet Italy’s Donald Trump

By Ruth Ben-Ghiat

Updated 2358 GMT (0758 HKT) December 5, 2016

[Ben-Ghiat : Italy’s vote was a huge victory for movement founded by comedian turned populist politician Beppe Grillo, who compares himself to Donald Trump and has shown a similar genius for marketing

Pull of illiberalism seems irresistible to many, she writes

Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a frequent contributor to CNN Opinion, and professor of history and Italian studies at New York University.

Founded in 2009, it became a political force to contend with when it received more than 25% in the 2013 elections. Yet its platform is still so eclectic that it’s been called “post-ideological.” It draws in large numbers of young people for its support of web-based democracy, the environment, and sustainable development, and its harsh critiques of globalization and big business.


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Voters in Italy, Austria send message to EU leaders: Hold on tight

Yet the Five Star Movement certainly does not map onto progressive politics as traditionally defined. Five Star members are economic protectionists, partial to conspiracy theories, and take a hard line against Islam and immigration.

Grillo’s corrosive comedy has included a “joke” that Sadiq Khan, London’s Muslim mayor, might “blow himself up in Westminster.”

And while the party’s mantra is direct democracy, Grillo has a rather dictatorial personality. Perhaps that’s why he adds his name to the many European politicians who admire Vladimir Putin (the Italian newspaper La Stampa reported that Russian sites were spreading fake news designed to help Grillo).


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Italian referendum: Who is Beppe Grillo?

By Sheena McKenzie, CNN

Updated 0523 GMT (1323 HKT) December 5, 2016

An anti-establishment entertainer?

Grillo, 68, founded the party in 2009 after making a name for himself on Italian TV in the 1970s and 1980s. He capitalized on his show-business bravado to promote an anti-establishment movement spanning both the left and right of politics.

He’s used to entertaining the public, so his speeches are also very entertaining,” said Vincenzo Scarpetta, senior policy analyst at think tank Open Europe.

“Even if you don’t speak Italian, if you watch his body language you can see he’s always very expressive and entertaining — he moves a lot, running back and forth on stage.”

Grillo has called for greater transparency in government, holding “V-Day” rallies — short for an Italian expletive beginning with V — which he says also invoke the revolutionary spirit of “V for Vendetta.”

“He’s definitely a straight-talking guy,” said Scarpetta.

Grillo’s party’s politics may be harder to pin down.

“It’s difficult to place the movement on the political spectrum, precisely because they have refused so far to be categorized as either left or right wing,” Scarpetta added.

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Beppe Grillo,

The clown prince of Italian politics.


It’s why european politicians have decided

to make state censorship appear

  • and to make satire and humour disappear !

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An ancient tradition in France, comics like COLUCHE and Pierre DAC are presidential candidates,

  • even Emmanuel MACRON, called “the new COLUCHE” by the ex- french president François HOLLANDE. But french people do not laugh at his jokes !

Pour François Hollande, Emma­nuel Macron est le Coluche de 2017


Martin Choteau | jeudi 28 avril 2016 à 08:22

[ Dans le dernier numéro du Canard Enchaîné, on peut lire les tensions qui animent le gouver­ne­ment de l’inté­rieur. Et s’il est un ministre qui a le don d’agacer certains de ses collègues, c’est bien le ministre de l’écono­mie, Emma­nuel Macron. Mais pour François Hollande, le jeune poli­tique a beau s’agiter, il n’est qu’un clown, ou plutôt un « Coluche », dans la bouche du président de la Répu­blique, qui consi­dère qu’il ne repré­sente pas un danger. […]]

François HOLLANDE was wrong as usually, the only rule that he has respected in his so long presidence,

  • to be wrong.


The “new President of France !”,

  • the new COLUCHE ! 
  • No, it’s wrong too !

Emmanuel MACRON is not “the new COLUCHE”,

  • because COLUCHE would have pledged to pass a freedom of information bill
  • that would allow citizens to find out how their taxes are spent
  • and to struggle against corruption of politicians and public officials.

Emmanuel MACRON pledges to pass a hate speech law, like in Germany, to struggle against french freedom of expression, a constitutional right in France.


In France, there was a time when socialist politicians killed comics by dictatorial censorship

  • and it seems that they would have wanted to physically eliminate them. The presidential candidate COLUCHE died in a tragic trafic accident the June 9th, 1986.

The corrupt dictatorships of european countries deprive their people, women especially, of the most basic human, social and economic rights

  • which explains their interest for fascisms,

  • claiming to fight against racism and anti-Semitism

  • but for some inexplicable reason taking measures to bolster the « islamic Nazism ».

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REMEMBER, the CNN reporter noted in his press article that :

– « Five Stars members are economic protectionists, partial to conspiracy theories, and take a hard line against Islam and immigration. »

And Beppe GRILLO, the «  clown », is the leader of the political party « Five Star movement ».

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Although it may be a criminal decision with painful consequences, it seems smarter

  • to bring some comic programmes to an end,

  • or not to begin them at all,

  • rather than under-finance them, what is further suspect because it’s a political discriminatory practice far too much overly visible to the general public

  • or rather than physically kill political clowns that is more reprehensible with possibility to expose the future defendant to an obvious risk of a criminal conviction which is intended to reflect public outrage.

Now remember and determine to change the future.

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Read the following press article from a very clever blog []  and decide how it pertains to your experience.

As I have told you many times, it is YOU, the people

  • who decide your future

  • and the dark is head to head for their goal :

  • to propagandize the European people.

Resist the urge to belittle seemingly “silly” problems and try to keep an open mind.

Read on to learn about how you can protect YOU, the people !

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First press article

Italy Proposes Law To Make Mocking People Online Illegal

from the what-a-stupid-fucking-law dept

Free Speech

by Mike Masnick

Tue, Sep 20th 2016 10:43am

Every so often, we see (probably) well-intentioned, but incredibly stupid, attempts to “fight” online harassment and bullying through laws that make saying things that are “offensive” against the law. In the US, such laws (if they actually get passed) are usually thrown out once someone makes a First Amendment challenge over them, but elsewhere in the world there’s no First Amendment to fall back on. Over in Italy, some officials have proposed what may be one of the dumbest such laws in history, written so broadly that it will outlaw a lot more than the kind of “cyberbullying” it’s supposedly intended to combat:

Under the proposed law, the “site manager” of Italian media, including bloggers, newspapers and social networks would be obliged to censor “mockery” based on “the personal and social condition” of the victim — that is, anything the recipient felt was personally insulting. The penalty for failing to take action is a fine of €100,000. Truthfulness is not a defense in suits under this law — the standard is personal insult, not falsehood.

Yes, mockery on the internet could get you a €100,000 fine. Mockery. The internet. The internet is made for mockery. And now is the time that everyone should be mocking this idiotic law — and the politicians who proposed it without having the slightest idea of how such a thing would be abused all the time. As Cory Doctorow at BoingBoing notes:

… what it will do is create a tool for easy censorship without due process or penalty for misuse. The standard proposed in the bill is merely that the person on the receiving end of the argument feel aggrieved. Think of the abuse of copyright takedowns: online hosts already receive millions of these, more than they could possibly evaluate, and so we have a robo-takedown regime that lets the rich and powerful routinely remove material that puts them in an unflattering light.

As bad as that is, at least it makes censorship contingent on something specific and objective: copyright infringement, which has a wealth of caselaw defining its contours. Indeed, so much that you need to be a trained expert to adjudicate a claim of infringement. But at least you can objectively assess whether a copyright infringement has taken place.

The standard set by the proposed Italian law allows for purely subjective claims to be made, and for enormous penalties to be imposed on those who question them before undertaking sweeping acts of censorship.

There are some efforts under way to “improve” the law by making it not quite so draconian, but maybe, just maybe, the “improvement” should be to recognize that you’re never going to successfully outlaw mockery on the internet.

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Some comments :

  • Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2016 @ 10:55am

Quick everyone

Let’s all mock Italy while it’s still legal!


  • Norahc, 20 Sep 2016 @ 11:05am

Vacation places

If this law passed, it will be one more place on the ever growing list of countries Mike won’t be able to visit.


  • crade (profile), 20 Sep 2016 @ 11:10am

Re: HowThisWouldLookIntheUSA

These things don’t fail horribly, they just keep compounding removing freedoms bit by bit and giving people time to adjust like a frog being boiled slowly so it doesn’t jump out of the water.

The differences you perceive are superficial.


  • Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2016 @ 11:25am

Re: Re: HowThisWouldLookIntheUSA

It is a tried and true method for getting gullible people to hand away all of their rights without much protest.

If I orchestrated a way to have your child kidnapped, then orchestrated the safe retrieval of your child despite you having lost much of your wealth, you would have profusely thanked me for it.

In many ways this is how government works EXACTLY! They are usually the cause of the problems to start with… and of course they will have a solution for it too, and a solution for the problems the new solution caused and yet again, solutions to the problem that the solution to the other problem caused as well.

Before you know it, there are so many laws throughout time that it is impossible to determine if you are free or just a sad prisoner living under the illusion that you are free because you still have the choice to buy a bag of beans to feed your family or a bag of rice.


  • Jeremy, 21 Sep 2016 @ 12:28pm

Re: HowThisWouldLookIntheUSA

How handy to define the kind of speech that you want to have regulated as ‘business speech’, as if businesses were not made up of…people. Ideas are ideas. Speech is speech. It doesn’t matter who’s doing it. As long as you’re not inciting to riot or shouting fire in a crowded movie theater FOR THE PURPOSE OF CAUSING A PANIC (it’s legal if you really think there’s a fire…), then it’s legal. The Founders knew how gov’ts tend to want to prohibit the right to free speech, so they gave us the 1st Amendment. No matter how offensive it is to others, it is legal. ‘Hate speech’ legislation is tyranny.


  • a state sponsored troll, 20 Sep 2016 @ 12:13pm

Can I reserve my cell?

I know it’s meant to be just a fine but I want to get the nice one with the window reserved, as they’ll probably change it to jail time in a few months.



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  • Anonymous Coward, 20 Sep 2016 @ 12:19pm

The law is a mockery

This law is a mockery itself and the people who pass it should be fined.

  • x, 20 Sep 2016 @ 12:57pm

What a bunch of idiots….

They have made a mockery of themselves….

So under their own law, they need to arrest themselves, find themselves guilty (they already are), then fine themselves and throw themselves in prison.


  • Curzio, 21 Sep 2016 @ 3:14pm

This law makes a mockery of due process and thereby, in Italy, makes the Law an ass. It is contrary to law itself. Italians who are free have the duty to disobey it.


  • Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 22 Sep 2016 @ 6:22am

A cunning plan

Totally a brilliant idea – assuming you’re an Italian politician of course:

Step 1 / Pass really stupid law outlawing mockey.

Step 2 / Use really stupid law to sue anyone who points out it’s a really stupid law because they’re mocking your work.

Step 3 / Profit!  

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Second press article

Now Italy Wants To Make ‘Fake News’ Illegal

from the but-can-you-define-it ? Dept

Legal Issues

by Mike Masnick

Tue, Jan 3rd 2017 3:25am

[ Now Italy Wants To Make ‘Fake News’ Illegal

from the but-can-you-define-it? dept

Over and over again, we’ve talked about the ridiculousness of the moral panic around so-called “fake news” — a broad and somewhat meaningless term now used to describe just about anything from actual made-up stories, to news articles that have a small factual error, to those with a “spin” that someone disagrees with. And, as we warned, the panic of “fake news” is leading to widespread calls for censorship. A few weeks ago, we wrote about how German officials were supporting a plan to criminalize “fake news” and now Italy wants to join in on the fun. In an interview with the country’s antitrust chief, Giovanni Pitruzzella, he argued that it’s really time to crack down on the internet, with government wielding the censorship power over whatever it calls “fake news.”

Post-truth in politics is one of the drivers of populism and it is one of the threats to our democracies,” Pitruzzella said. “We have reached a fork in the road: we have to choose whether to leave the internet like it is, the wild west, or whether it needs rules that appreciate the way communication has changed. I think we need to set those rules and this is the role of the public sector.”

Pitruzzella argued tackling fake news should not be left up to social media companies, but instead be tackled by the state through independent authorities with the power to remove fake news and impose fines, coordinated by Brussels, similar to the way the EU regulates competition.

Any time you hear of a plan for the government to be able to remove news stories or impose fines for reporting, you should get very, very worried. That is a recipe for censorship. Yes, blatantly made-up stories are a problem — but not one that should be dealt with by expanding the tools of censorship in a way that will be abused. We need to teach better media literacy and get more people to understand how to read critically and to do research. Putting tools to censor and fine journalists in the hands of government will inevitably lead to that power being abused. Someone will report on something that makes a politician look bad, and suddenly it will be declared “fake news.” We’re seeing that happen already — even without the threat of fines and censorship.

This focus on “fake news” is becoming increasingly dangerous and many of the people screaming loudest about it — including lots of journalists — don’t seem to realize where it will end. You can worry about truly made-up stories all you want, but if you think the solution to it is to increase the powers to censor and stifle and chill expression, you’re not going to be happy with how it boomerangs back on legitimate expression.]

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Some comments :

  • Anonymous Coward, 3 Jan 2017 @ 4:01am

How does one distinguish between satire and political spin as applied to stories? Will the politicians put into practice their usual “do as we say and not as we do”?


  • Anonymous Coward, 3 Jan 2017 @ 7:11am

Mussolini would be proud.

Same old same old.


  • Ninja (profile), 3 Jan 2017 @ 8:26am

The “terrorism” bogeyman isn’t working anymore. They had to choose a new target.

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Third press article

Italian Government Criminalizes ‘Fake News,’ Provides Direct Reporting Line To State Police Force

from the let-a-bold-new-era-of-SWATing-begin! dept

Free Speech

by Tim Cushing

Wed, Jan 24th 2018 9:40am

No one knows how to handle “fake news.” Rather than step back and see what light-touch approaches might work, governments all over the world are rushing forward with bad ideas that harm speech and threaten journalism. No one seems to be immune to the “do something” infection and everything proposed is just another way to give governments more direct control of social media platforms and news outlets.

In Italy, the government control of speech under the guide of “fake news” deterrence is being done in the worst way possible. It’s not being handed to a regulatory body with instructions to sort of keep an eye on things. Instead, as Poynter reports, it’s rolling out as a heckler’s veto backed by armed officers.

In an effort to address fake news ahead of this year’s elections, the Italian government has created an online portal where people can report hoaxes.

The portal, which Interior Minister Marco Minniti announced Thursday, prompts users to supply their email address, a link to the misinformation they’re reporting and any social networks they found it on.

Then the requests are ferried to authorities at the Polizia Postale, a unit of the state police that investigates cyber crime, who will fact-check them and — if laws were broken — pursue legal action. In cases where no laws were broken, the service will still draw upon official sources to deny false or misleading information.

It seems as though this could be handled without government interference — especially not the sort that might result in armed officers showing up at a press agency’s HQ, demanding rebuttals, deletions, or arrests of fake news offenders. The government’s anti-fake news effort even gives the government a platform for “more speech,” which is all speech like this really needs to be greeted with.

Getting facts wrong should be a black eye (not literally!) for journalists, rather than a criminal offense. Fake news spread maliciously should be greeted with little more than fact checking and debunking. This can — and should — be handled by journalists and citizens. Giving the government a platform for debunking caters to its innate desire to control the narrative in questionable situations. The government is certainly welcome to present its own side and deliver facts that rebut claims made by others. But it doesn’t need legislation to do this and it certainly does not need to bring law enforcement into the mix.

Adding to the host of problems is the fact that “fake news” hasn’t been clearly defined by the government. True, the term resists strict definition, but the lack of discernible contours means the government can simply target any speech it doesn’t like and force the issue by handing it over to the police force. The opening of an online portal invites further abuse by citizens who prefer shouting down people with opposing views, rather than engaging in constructive discussions.

Whenever the police is given the task of dealing with the truth and falsehood of news and political content, yes, those who care about democracy should be worried — not feel protected,” [journalist Fabio] Chiusi said. “Citizens in healthy democracies don’t need to be protected from falsehood of this sort: they should be able to freely exercise their judgment, with no interference from state authorities — especially the police.”

Arianna Ciccone, founder of the International Journalism Festival, agreed. She told Poynter in an email that the initiative — which Chiusi said doesn’t offer a counter-measure for those who might be falsely accused — opens up the possibility of future infringements of free speech by the government, as well as a potential cooling effect on the press.

In short: If journalists are too afraid that making a mistake will result in legal intervention, what will go uncovered?

Reporters will not only shy away from publishing articles while details are still emerging, but will also be deterred from publishing anything the government might disagree with. The term “fake news” has become shorthand for news anyone disagrees with, whether or not the contents are untrue. This gives the Italian government free rein to harass news outlets it doesn’t like. Even if journalists are ultimately cleared of criminal charges, they’ll be forced to spend time and money defending themselves and the outlets they work for will likely face future harassment from authorities. Once you’re on law enforcement’s radar, you’re there forever. It’s the newsroom equivalent of inner city life, where merely existing in a “high crime” area exposes you to constant, unprovoked “interactions” with law enforcement.

Normally, I’d say something like “the legislation’s aim is noble,” but in the case of governments v. fake news, that can’t even be said. The term eludes strict definition which is the sort of thing you definitely need if you’re going to regulate speech. Providing a direct pipeline to police mobilization is perhaps the worst “solution” presented so far. And as the anti-fake news effort picks up steam, the ripple effect will move beyond harassed journalists to every Italian citizen who’s “liked” or retweeted social media posts deemed “fake news” by a law enforcement entity.

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Some comments :

  • Regret, 24 Jan 2018 @ 11:08am

Could be worrisome, but these are Italian police

Two Carabinieri are in front of a mirror.

The first one says, “Look, two colleagues. Let’s go say hello.”

The other says, “No, let’s just wait. It looks like they’re coming this way.”


  • Anonymous Coward, 24 Jan 2018 @ 11:09am

No one seems to be immune to the “do something” infection and everything proposed is just another way to give governments more direct control of social media platforms and news outlets.

I’m pretty sure that’s because giving government more direct control over social media and news outlets is the point of most of this. “Fake News” has been around a long time. It simply used to be called things like yellow journalism, propaganda, or gossip. Governments are only leaping to “do something” about it because now that it’s called “fake news” a bunch of people are panicking and politicians see the chance to give themselves a mandate to censor media outlets old, new, or ‘social’. They’re hoping to publish enough people for gossiping on the internet, that when the next election roles around, everyone will fear to say anything bad about them, even if it’s true.

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  • Not an Electronic Rodent (profile), 24 Jan 2018 @ 12:32pm

Sounds kinda familiar…

The state deciding what is and isn’t true in news and political reporting… What could possibly go wrong?

The UK government seems to be doing something similar – an [] “anti-fake news unit”… Guess “Ministry of Truth” was too copyright…?


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Vive la France LIBRE !

Clairvoyance – From John WAYNE : – “Best wishes for 2018, Donald TRUMP ! You are the best ! Don’t forget that. The best president of the USA ! You are the right man at the right time. You had no choice but struggle for life, YOUR choice, save the USA and save your country from the Third World War !”

[L’avertissement de redirection  vers un autre site qui peut apparaître sur cette page est de la CENSURE indirecte. Cette redirection n’est pas voulue par moi.  Merci de ne pas tomber dans le piège de “Big Brother” !]

[Translation in english : The redirection filter module of WordPress includes a data redirection not wanted by me. It is ILLEGAL CENSORSHIP. Thank you for not falling into this trap of Big Brother !] 


Donald Trump


Don’t fight against Russia.

They want to force you to fight against Russia.

Rather than battle a country, Russia, with which USA share the same religion, Christianity, and are close in many ways, you should resolve these issues through discussion.

Better !, you should avoid the dangers of a Third World War with Russia.

Join christian and occidental Company in a fight through deadly terrorist countries with desert cities and never forget vast arctic terrain on a mission to defuse WWIII.

You have to fight together against islamist plague and eliminate the risks of an atomic warfare in Europe wanted by NATO and their big arms dealers.

The actions of unscrupulous and predatory arms merchants also bear special mention.

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You know that, guy, YOU KNOW THEM !

Your guess is as good as mine.

Preventing the Third World War must be a shared ambition.

You know that, about Vladimir POUTINE’s peace initiative, your only friend at the moment in this « panier de crabes »

[- in french in the text, “clin d’oeil”, “wink” of, de John WAYNE, a little concession for me, the french medium]

  • That is to say in english :  “In your environment, they’re always at each other’s throats”.

Your only friend, at the moment,  the ancient president of Russia, Vladimir POUTINE, as you already know, will be the next president of Russia,

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You, who are the current and ancient president of the USA,

  • but also, – you must already have understood -,

  • you,

  • who will be the new president of the USA, next time.

In order to commemorate the Second World War, when the USA free Western Europe from nazism and Russia Eastern Europe from the same nazism, you and Vladimir POUTINE will fight against fascism, islamism and anti-semitism, the neo-nazism :

  • under the heading « UNITED, we are strong ».

Because a war against Russia is wanted by coward NATO.

Don’t fall into that trap, a big trap for christian countries.

Because NATO does not honour its members fighting against an ally, Russia which overcame with USA those who sought to burn a free society to the ground during the Second World War.

Remember, always united, how we fought terrorism against those who want to destroy christian peace in occidental world.

And Russia belongs to our occidental world, not islamist Turkey which is surprisingly integrated in NATO.

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This proove that NATO,

  • which was made up of christian states, with, from 1952, one exception, Turkey,
  • is an organisation of courtiers for the usual ones : mostly a mixture of flattery, hypocrisy, toadyism and even duplicity, finishing up in the goods of this world and the vanities of the age.

NATO is showing today that it is not listening the lessons of history.

I’d like to dedicate this article to a real American hero.

– « Like me , cow-boy ! »

  • I would say “Donald TRUMP”, of course !
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Thank you, Veronica, for allowing me to tell my message.

God bless America and God bless a free Europe !